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Dedicated to the memory of Qwatsinas

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subMedia presents

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a film by Franklin López

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inspired by "Endgame" Volumes 1 & 2
by Derrick Jensen

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- People often say that
there's a war against nature

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and that this is
the third world war.

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- It's getting more stark;
it's getting worse and

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the rate of change is accelerating,
whether we're talking about the

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extinction of species or
the thoroughness of the techno-culture.

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- The world right now is,
frankly, very frightening.

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For what we consider
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I would say is extraordinarily uncivilized,

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actually quite savage.

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- It's not an exaggeration
to say that we're

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living in an ecological apocalypse.

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- Between years 1980 and 2045

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we will lose more species
of plants and animals than

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we have lost in the
last 65 million years.

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We have two big-picture
time pressures that really mean

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we should be acting a lot
more urgently than most of us have.

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And one of them is peak oil,
or energy collapse,

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and one of them is climate change,
or runaway global warming.

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- I think that most people,
even most scientists,

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continue to underestimate how far

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down the path to climate catastrophe

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we've already travelled.

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- For the most part,
we're oblivious to it, we don't

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want to know about it,
we don't want to hear about it.

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- The one thing I'm most afraid of
is that we're going to

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mount a tremendous campaign
to sustain the unsustainable.

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- At this point, scientists
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temperature may increase
by as much as 10 degrees.

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At that point, there may not
even be bacteria left.

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- When the oil starts
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and when those in power
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in a time of dwindling resources,

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I think they're going
to turn to much more

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blunt and cruel methods
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- The whole climate is
changing: the winds,

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the ocean currents,
the storm patterns,

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snow pack, snow melt,

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flooding, droughts.

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GAME OVER

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Somewhere in northern California

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- It's stunning how fast
the destruction is proceeding.

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Every day that passes,
the world is in worse shape.

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'The sad-looking man you see
on the screen is Derrick Jensen.

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Jensen is the best-selling author
of several non-fiction books

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including "A Language Older than Words"
and "The Culture of Make Believe".

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His books deal with topics such as
surveillance, child abuse, the environment,

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and something he calls "civilization".

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But it's statements like these
that make him so controversial:'

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They're thinking of raising
the Shasta Dam in California,

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and the reason that
Senator Feinstein gave was...

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"It is Californians' God-given
right to water their lawns."

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You know, there is no way
to argue with that...

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...except with explosives.

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'That was Mr. Jensen in 2006, the same year
he published a two-volume set called 'Endgame.'

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In 'Endgame' , he argues that there is an
urgent need to bring down civilization.'

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- If people would have brought down
civilization a hundred years ago

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people in the Pacific Northwest
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There's going to be people sitting
along the Columbia fifty years from now --

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they'll be glowing for one thing --
but they'll be starving to death,

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and they'll be saying,

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"I'm starving to death, because
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...that killed salmon, and
those dams were used for barging,

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and for electricity, for alumninum
smelters for beer cans, so

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God damn you."

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He lays out his case against
civilization by enumerating 20 premises.

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Due to time limitations and
the fact that most people

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would not tolerate a twenty-hour
movie, we will explore

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four of these premises,
and accompany them

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with real-life examples.

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Premise I

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Industrial civilization, civilization itself,
but especially industrial civilization

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is not, and can
never be, sustainable.

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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
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on the use of nonrenewable
resources won't last.

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But what is civilization?

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Civilization is a way of life
characterized by the growth of cities.

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- So you've got groups of people living
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the local landbase cannot support them.

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What that means is you have to get

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your basic resources from somewhere else

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because you've used them up where you live.

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So you're going to go out into
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whatever it is you want,
bring it back in.

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If you require the importation of resources,

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it means you've denuded the landscape
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Manhattan Island circa 1609

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Manhattan Island today

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Manhattan today      Manhattan 1609

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- There's no way that in the
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to destroy the land that you need for your survival,

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or the waters that you need to drink,

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and expect to continue to live.

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- Industrial civilization requires
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of energy and ever-increasing
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ever-increasing amounts
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in order to perpetuate itself,

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in order to continue to grow,

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in order to just maintain itself.

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And we live on a finite planet,

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and those aren't available.

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Of course, unfortunately for us
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that culture won't stop until
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or, of course,
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if you start using it,

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eventually you use it up.

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And so it would seem that if
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let's take a random resource...

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...that you would think about
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happen when the oil runs out

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that have allowed us to escape

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limits that previous cultures

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have had to face much more quickly.

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They used to collapse because
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easily accessible resources.

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or other pack animals.
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of the fossil fuel age; now
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and take what they want.
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accelerated this tremendously
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- We've poured our wealth into

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building an infrastructure
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that has no future. I do think that

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oil problem is going to accelerate

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within the next three to
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- Where do you find
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ensemble that just moves forward.

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Technology, for example,
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This whole thing just
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- I don't know of any civilization
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I don't believe
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Technology, at its essence,
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...determination,

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that comes from certain

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philosophical and historical sources,

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that we will be nothing else
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- There is no clean green path to

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living in a lifestyle that
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industrialized nations.
This way of life is OVER.

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- Civilizations are often
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very visibly, very obviously,
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- Every civilization is defined by hubris,

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it's defined by its denial

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to recognize that it
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As a matter of fact, every
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elevates itself above nature,

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and claims that it is the
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Figure 1

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- The first written myth of this culture
is Gilgamesh deforesting the plains

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and hillsides of Iraq.
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what's the first thing they normally
think of? Cedar forests so thick

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that sunlight never
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That's how it was, prior to the
arrival of this culture.

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Clearcuts

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So, as a longtime, grassroots,
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and as a creature living in
the thrashing endgame of civilization,

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I am intimately acquainted
with the landscape of loss,

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and have grown accustomed to
carrying the daily weight of despair.

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I've walked clearcuts that
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drop into valleys and
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watershed after watershed,
and I've sat, silent,

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near empty streams that
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were lashed into whiteness
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coming home to spawn and die.

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when they do industrial
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and just remove all the trees.
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they leave nothing but
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and they burn the slash piles
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and what's left is a wasteland,

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and it's like they take a rainforest
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That's what a clearcut is.

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They use them for pulp;
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to the United States and to Japan.

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There's not very much milling
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it's just getting exported for pulp and paper

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and fibreboard, and plywood,
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Not a lot of value added.

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This tree has been
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usually the company will only clearcut

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but this tree is in what they call

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a stream-side selection zone.

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they've got it marked blue,
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In a clearcut they don't paint the trees

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that they're going to cut down.

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They only paint the ones
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- There's still a strong push to harvest

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as much of the western
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They're bringing in huge
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...selecting only the really
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...in a junk heap.

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So, that's why we keep on,

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you know, fighting back.

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I think the last straw was when

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they wanted to log the Valley of Ista

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because of its historical and
they wanted to log the Valley of Ista

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because of its historical and

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spiritual significance to our people.

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But they log it in spite, you know,

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just to make a point

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against our resistance, against our

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our overall position,

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you know, with regard to treaties

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or encroachment of industry development

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in our territories.

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- In a lot of these areas,
like this clearing behind me

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up on the hill,
you can see the soil is exposed,

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the ultraviolet kills
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the funguses that hold
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When the stumps rot
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then the slopes slide,

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and often there's not much regrowth,
there's no regeneration of the forest.

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it doesn't always work
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it washes down into the streams,
it kills the salmon,

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it fills up the reservoirs,

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all kinds of flood damage downstream.

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- That's terrorism.
Stripping down all the trees,

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ripping out all the
trees in the forest...

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...and now they're going
to rip out the

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guts of the land

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looking for copper and gold.

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...this has to have some
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...to address the
injustice to our people,

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the injustice to the land,
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to the wildlife;
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marine life and the salmon life.

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And the injustice to the people
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- When we blocked the road --

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these trees are very valuable

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and the laws are all profit-driven,
they're all driven by

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the corporations,
the police are there

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to enforce the
corporations' right to log,

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not to enforce our
right to stop them

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and protect the ecosystem.
There's so little

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that's left of the
old-growth forest like

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this that we see on the sides here

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that people are putting
their bodies on the line,

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they are willing
to make huge sacrifices

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to stop the forest from being sacrificed,

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and the water,
and the air quality,

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and the global climate.

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Premise II

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Traditional communities do not often

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voluntarily give up
or sell the resources

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on which their
communities are based

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until their communities
have been destroyed.

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They also do not
willingly allow their

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land-bases to be damaged
so that other resources --

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gold, oil, and so on --
can be extracted.

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It follows that those who want
the resources will do what they can

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to destroy traditional communities.

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- Our people, we say, have been
there since time immemorial.

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- Prior to invasion

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and conquest, colonization,

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lands in North America were occupied by

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populations of people
that had a profoundly

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different relationship with the land.

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- They live with the land,
all the ceremonies that have

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come up have to do with

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celebrating the renewal of seasons and

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life and affirming all of that.

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- One thing about indigenous peoples is that

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there's always the idea
that you have to live

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in balance, you know, emotionally,

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physically, spiritually,

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you have to have balance,
and so this same

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philosophy was applied to the
natural world that they lived in.

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- The Tolowa, on whose land I now live,

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weren't civilized,
they didn't live in cities,

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they didn't require the
importation of resources,

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they lived in villages, camps...

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...and lived there for 12,500 years if
you believe the myths of science.

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If you believe the myths of the Tolowa,
they lived there since the beginning of time.

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- I think that what we have had in

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indigenous societies all along is a very,

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kind of, common sense, a very practical

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approach to why it's important to

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treat the world around you,

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the natural world, in a good way.

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- Our people never exploited
more than what we needed.

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We respect the land,
we respect the animals,

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we respect the water,
we respect the air,

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the wind, the fire,
all the sacred elements.

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And we believe that they all are living,

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living things, so...

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...I suspect that's the way
it was before contact.

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- The stories that we have

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about our relationship to each other

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and to the land and
to any spiritual aspect,

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any deities, arise from our relationship

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with the land.

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The salmon were considered to be our...

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...mentors, caregivers -- lifegivers.

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They were equal to us, in fact,

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all things that have
form were equal to us.

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We weren't about dominating.

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- The spiritual relationship
that our peoples had

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prior to invasion

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with all of creation,
and recognizing that

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all beings have a spiritual essence,

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a spiritual entity,
and that if we want

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to live in this
universe in a good way,

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that it was absolutely essential
that we learned how to

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maintain respectful relations

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with all of creation.

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They made us many promises,

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more than I can remember,
but they never kept but one;

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they promised to take our land,
and they took it.
-Red Cloud

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When Europeans came to this land

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it was with...

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such a rapacious appetite

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it still has not been sated.

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- They brought Christianity,

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they brought colonization,

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and, certainly,
they did bring civilization.

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- They came in, and they
were sent with this,

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commission, they felt,
apparently, to dominate the land

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and it was just there for the taking --
these people would accept

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beads, or just kind
of get out of the way,

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and of course they had superior
firepower at that time, too.

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- Right off the bat,
with Christopher Columbus

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landing in the Caribbean
region on what is

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today Haiti and
the Dominican Republic,

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they initiated almost
immediately a genocide

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down there that
depopulated most of the

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nation, the Taino,
and the Arawaks.

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One of the main things that
happened was the introduction

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of diseases, which was
basically biological warfare.

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- The smallpox was spread through

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tobacco and blankets

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and given to the Indian people.

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So it didn't take them long to be

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decimated because they were pure.

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And the smallpox was vicious,
very vicious.

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- When Europeans came,
much of what they

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were interested in was
rapid resource exploitation.

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They wanted to get
wealthy in the new world.

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And as they were seeking that wealth,

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they worked with indigenous
nations to undermine

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traditional economies
and undermine the

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relationship that indigenous
populations have with

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the lands so that indigenous
peoples could then do

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do the work of resource
exploitation and extraction

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for the Europeans so that
they could get wealthy.

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- In imposing those things
on indigenous peoples, of course,

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they just destroyed indigenous
peoples and their nations and

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their way of life.
Generally, indigenous peoples suffered

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90% or more depopulation rate

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upon having contact with Europeans.

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It was a genocide, war for territory,

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because the Europeans
wanted to take the resources.

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- Settler society has worked to destroy

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what it needs to live,

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and that's suicidal.
It's a suicidal mission.

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There's no way that it can be
sustainable in the long term.

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Premise III

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- I gave a talk in Oregon
a couple years ago,

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and this guy afterwards said,
"You know, you talk a lot about

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this culture being based
on violence, but I don't see it,

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you know, I'm not violent".

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I said, "Okay, first off, where is your shirt made?"
He looked and it was made in Bangladesh.

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I was like,
"Look, do we even need to talk about that?"

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- He's fucking faking he's dead!

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- Yeah, he's breathing.

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- He's faking he's fucking dead!

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GUNSHOT

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- He's dead NOW.

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- Our way of living,
industrial civilization, is based on,

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requires, and would
collapse very quickly

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without persistent
and widespread violence.

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- A large explosion! A large explosion!

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- Wow.

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- I'll just take a couple eggs. How many you want?

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- Two, two is good.
Okay. Now what next?

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- Some ham, tomato.

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- Tomato, okay,
how about that?

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- Okay, some onion.
Ooh, and cheese!

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- Everything, then, right, you want everything.
Okay. I understand, okay.

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We'll just pop this on. Now watch!

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I'm chopping the ham and veggies,
grating the cheese,

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and whipping the eggs all...

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...in three seconds.
The machine that just made

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those smoothies for Verna and Fred,
can make an omelette.

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There's not much time left to get
this beautiful hope diamond necklace,

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less than 50 seconds. Gillian?

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00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:26,050
- Absolutely, John, you're going
to want to give us a call to get

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this beautiful hope diamond necklace.

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This is a 45.52 carat
diamond surrounded by

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16 white diamonds.

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It has a platinum chain
bearing 46 MORE diamonds.

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- These are twelve four-ounce southern

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barbecue chicken breasts.

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These Stuffin Gourmet®,
farm-fresh chicken breast;

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they come from the
barnyard to your backyard.

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They're wonderfully marinated
and guaranteed to be tender,

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juicy, and downright delicious.

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- Fine-tune those measurements,
we keep them on file.

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They're saved,
they're on our computer.

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Go back into the section
where you reorder,

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and fine-tune those
measurements for us.

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And then we'll have
a chance to send you

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another pair of customized jeans

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that we really believe are
going to fit perfectly.

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- We're going to do a countdown,

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starting from 5.

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Everybody  got to help me out here,

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5,

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4,

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3,

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2,

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428
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(explosion)

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It worked!

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Second, I said,
"Okay, do you pay rent?"

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He's like, "Yeah..."

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I said, "Why?"

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He said, "Because, I don't own."

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I said, "No, no, no, what would
happen if you didn't pay rent?"

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He said,
"Well, the sheriff would come and evict me."

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I said, "I don't know what that means.
What would happen?

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He said, "Well, the sheriff would come
and he would knock on the door..."

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I said, "Okay, great, what happens
if you open the door...

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...and you say,
'Hey! I'm just finishing up making dinner.

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You want some?'

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And the sheriff sits down, you feed him
you don't poison him

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And then, after dinner you say,

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you've been somewhat pleasant
company, but not all that pleasant,

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so I would like for you to leave
my home now.' What would happen?

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He said, "Well, the sheriff would
pull out his gun and say,

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'I'm here to evict you,
because you didn't pay rent.'"

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I said, "Ahh. So, the reason you pay
rent is because if you don't,

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some guy with a gun is going
to come take you away."

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He said, "I think I get it."

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I said, "Well, let's try again.

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What happens if you're hungry,
so you go to the grocery store

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and you just start eating.
What's going to happen?"

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"someone will call the sheriff."

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I said, "Yeah, it's the same guy who's going
to come with a gun and take you away,

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he's a real asshole, isn't he?"
So, one of the reasons

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we don't see a lot of the violence,
is because it's exported.

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Another reason we don't see a
lot of the violence is because

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we've been so metabolized
into the system

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that we've bought into this
strange notion that it's okay

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to have to pay to exist on the planet.

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That's really, really weird.

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And, if you don't pay,
then some guy with a gun is going to come

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and bad things are going to happen to you.

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Figure II

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A few years a go,
I got a call from a friend of mine.

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She's an environmental activist.

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She was crying, and she said,

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"This works just killing me,
it's breaking my heart."

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I said, "Yeah, I know. It'll do that."

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Then she said,

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"The dominant culture
hates everything doesn't it?"

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I said, "Yeah, it does. Even itself."

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She said, "It has a death urge, doesn't it?"
I said, "Yeah, it does."

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She said, "Unless it's stopped, it's going
to kill everything on the planet, isn't it?"

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I said, "Yeah it is, unless it's stopped."

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Then she said,
"We're not going to make it

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to some great, new,
glorious tomorrow, are we?"

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Green is the color of money

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- 98% of the old-growth forests are gone.

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99% of the prairies are gone.

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80% of the rivers on this
planet do not support life anymore.

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We are out of species, we're out of soil,

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and we are out of time.

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And what we are being told

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by most of the environmental movement

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is that the way to stop all of this

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is through personal, consumer choices.

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- By simply purchasing our product,

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the consumer can make a small,
easy step to a greener Earth.

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So, by taking that
one roll, and buying

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00:29:48,060 --> 00:29:50,570
that one roll, you can
help save millions of trees.

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- I think we can really look at the history

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of the environmental movement to tell

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us a lot about why it hasn't been working.

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There was a lot of pretty
radical and militant environmentalism

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happening, especially
in the 70's and 80's.

497
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:08,590
In a lot of ways, that was kind of
a heyday for environmentalism.

498
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:10,210
You know, Greenpeace was founded.

499
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,400
It started to become very mainstream in
some quarters to be an environmentalist.

500
00:30:14,550 --> 00:30:17,450
And then there was also
a shift around that time when...

501
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,590
...corporations realized that they could sell

502
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:23,440
a lot of things by calling them "green".

503
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:27,200
- Green-washing is an
attempt by corporations to

504
00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:31,610
put labels on their
activity that are popular

505
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:33,850
and that appeal to
people's sensibility about,

506
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:37,000
and concern for, the
environment and for ecology.

507
00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:42,590
- For the mast majority of
people within society today,

508
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:45,450
there's a total sense
of denial and disconnect

509
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:49,630
between what they
think is good and right

510
00:30:49,670 --> 00:30:54,000
and then their actions as a
society or as a civilization,

511
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,880
especially as it relates
to the natural world.

512
00:31:00,790 --> 00:31:06,110
- I have a real problem with a lot of the
"solutions" that are put forward by people

513
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:09,420
because they confuse what is
real with what is not real.

514
00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,620
What they do is take the
industrial economy as a given.

515
00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:17,180
"How can we save the industrial economy,
and oh, it would be nice if we still have a planet."

516
00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:23,550
- It doesn't matter if I buy,

517
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:26,970
hemp soap if there's a
runaway greenhouse effect

518
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:28,880
and the planet becomes uninhabitable.

519
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:32,330
- The modern mainstream
environmental movement of the

520
00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:34,210
big environmental organizations --

521
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:36,680
Greenpeace, and Sierra Club,
and the others --

522
00:31:36,990 --> 00:31:40,800
is rooted in that very same cultural lie

523
00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:43,910
that nature is resources.

524
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,330
Nature is things to be used and managed.

525
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,010
Nature is, as the philosopher

526
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:52,760
Martin Heidegger put it,
just a vast gasoline station

527
00:31:52,790 --> 00:31:56,200
that we can endlessly extract from.

528
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,210
They may say we need to
manage it more wisely,

529
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,850
but as long as they maintain the mindset that

530
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,510
we are the lords of creation and

531
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,420
creation exists for us as resources
to be transformed into commodities

532
00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:11,480
for us to buy and sell,
as long as they maintain

533
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,260
that perspective on what it
means to be an environmentalist,

534
00:32:15,290 --> 00:32:18,350
then they're working
within the same framework of

535
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,570
an ultimately self-destructive
path that the culture is on.

536
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:27,040
In May 2010, 21 logging companies signed
a deal with several major environmental

537
00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:32,010
organizations, including Greenpeace
and the David Suzuki Foundation.

538
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:36,530
The deal, known as "The Canadian Boreal
Forest Agreement" aimed to silence all

539
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:39,450
criticism of logging practices
in the boreal forest.

540
00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:42,410
The Marketplace is also
going to be very important

541
00:32:42,550 --> 00:32:45,520
Many cusomers have been pushing for
change in the boreal forest.

542
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:47,970
The Forest Product Association

543
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:49,930
and its 21 member companies are

544
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:52,490
responding to the demand
for greener products,

545
00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:55,640
and that marketplace is
going to pay close attention.

546
00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:59,180
If the change isn't happening,
then they're going to put

547
00:32:59,230 --> 00:33:01,550
pressure on the parties who
were part of the agreement --

548
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,350
the environmental organizations,
the forest products companies --

549
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:07,240
to do the things that
they've set out to do.

550
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,640
And the will reward the companies

551
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,170
when things begin to be implemented and

552
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,590
the change happens on the ground.
I'm fully confident of that.

553
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:16,960
- One interesting piece of the agreement is

554
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:21,420
with Greenpeace,
David Suzuki, Forest Ethics,

555
00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:24,130
Canadian Parks and
Wilderness on our side,

556
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,150
when someone else comes and
tries to bully us,

557
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:31,180
the agreement actually requires
that they come and

558
00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:33,860
work with us in repelling the attack and we'll be

559
00:33:33,890 --> 00:33:36,700
able to say, "Fight me, fight my gang."

560
00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:40,270
- I personally have no use for large,

561
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,540
institutionalized environmental organizations;

562
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:45,350
I think they're more of a problem than a help.

563
00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:47,390
They're just eco-bureaucracies.

564
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,280
And, you know, I won't name any
because I don't like to badmouth

565
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:51,770
organizations, except for one, which I

566
00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:53,880
feel that I can, and that's
Greenpeace. And the reason I

567
00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:57,370
can criticize Greenpeace is
I am a co-creator of Greenpeace,

568
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,490
and therefore I feel like Dr. Frankenstein
sometimes, and I feel that since I helped

569
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:03,720
create the thing I can certainly criticize it.

570
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,910
And I think that Greenpeace has become

571
00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,560
the world's biggest feel-good
organization now. People join it

572
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,750
to feel good, to feel, "I'm part of
the solution, I'm not part of the problem."

573
00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:16,090
Greenpeace brings in close
to $300 million a year,

574
00:34:16,140 --> 00:34:18,100
and what do they do with that money?

575
00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:20,190
Generate more money. And the people who

576
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:22,860
are at the top of the totem pole
now are not environmentalists --

577
00:34:22,870 --> 00:34:25,130
they're fundraisers,
they're accountants,

578
00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:26,900
they're lawyers,
they're businesspeople.

579
00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:30,340
People are voting with their dollars at
the checkout stands. It's because

580
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:33,280
they know the polling shows that the public cares,

581
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,300
and ultimately they're going to care about their

582
00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:39,190
profit margin and whether they can sell products.

583
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:41,290
What's happened in British Columbia with the

584
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:45,120
environmental movement, it's been stalemated.

585
00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:51,110
The big leaders there compromised;

586
00:34:51,470 --> 00:34:52,990
they went in bed

587
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,430
and it snuffed out that movement.

588
00:34:57,150 --> 00:35:00,960
In the 1990's the Nuxalk Nation engaged
in a campaign of direct action to stop

589
00:35:00,980 --> 00:35:04,980
logging on their traditional lands
also known as the Great Bear Rainforest.

590
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,550
Their struggle was eventually co-opted
by well-funded environmental groups.

591
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,780
including Greenpeace,
the Sierra Club and Forest Ethics.

592
00:35:16,850 --> 00:35:19,690
- So what happened was there was direct action,
there were blockades

593
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:21,440
there was an international market campaign

594
00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:23,070
that put a lot of pressure on the companies

595
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:24,540
that were logging in the Great Bear Rainforest.

596
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:27,220
But the end result was that it all fed into

597
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,010
a closed-door negotiation with

598
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Tzeporah Berman as chief negotiator

599
00:35:32,050 --> 00:35:35,960
on the conservationists' side,
where a lot of the groups

600
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:38,550
that actually did the work,
the direct actions,

601
00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:41,620
and did the market campaigns
were shut out of the process.

602
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,490
Public oversight was removed
and the protocol agreements

603
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,030
that were signed with First Nations
and with conservation groups

604
00:35:48,070 --> 00:35:50,090
were basically shunted aside.

605
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:52,870
So the protocol agreements gave

606
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:54,850
the negotiators a mandate to

607
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,410
negotiate for 40 to 60
percent conservation

608
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,040
but what happened was
they agreed to 20 percent.

609
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:05,060
- It's not strange to me
when people tell me that

610
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,050
the former president of Greenpeace

611
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:09,090
now works for the logging industry of Canada.

612
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,850
The former president of Greenpeace Australia

613
00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:13,030
now works for the mining industry. The former

614
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:15,530
president of Greenpeace Norway works for the

615
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:18,510
whaling industry. See, because it's
just one corporate job to the next.

616
00:36:20,050 --> 00:36:22,970
In 1975 Greenpeace launched
its anti-whaling campaign,

617
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,110
confronting whaling fleets on the high seas.

618
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:32,720
In June 2010, Greenpeace agreed
to a deal that would allow

619
00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:36,320
nations like Japan to continue hunting
whales for commercial purposes.

620
00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:45,830
The only measure in which
we'll be judged by those

621
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,730
come after is the health
of the land and

622
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,070
the health of the water,
the health of the Earth.

623
00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:52,840
They're not going to give a
shit as to whether we recycled;

624
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,700
they're not going to give a shit
as to whether we wrote our legislators;

625
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480
they're not going to give a
shit as to how hard we tried.

626
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,160
What they're going to care about is whether they
can breathe the air and drink the water,

627
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,070
whether the land will support them.

628
00:37:03,070 --> 00:37:04,810
And they're not going to
care how hard we tried,

629
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,750
they're not going to care about any of that --
what they're going to care about is...

630
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,510
...do we live on a living planet?

631
00:37:17,950 --> 00:37:22,780
Figure III

632
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:29,970
OK, so...

633
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:40,480
...I don't know if you know this, but

634
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,990
the original draft of the
movie Star Wars was not

635
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,200
written by Lucas.

636
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,030
The original draft was
written by environmentalists

637
00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:53,610
and it's a little bit different.

638
00:38:00,260 --> 00:38:02,240
For one thing, it wasn't
actually called "Star WARS".

639
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:06,790
It was called "Star
Non-Violent Civil Disobedience".

640
00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:09,410
But the plot of Star Wars, for those
of you who don't remember, is that

641
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,950
the Empire has created this
giant machine called the Death Star.

642
00:38:14,090 --> 00:38:18,370
And it's a machine that's
capable of destroying entire planets.

643
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:22,560
In the movie the rebels find a
way to destroy the Death Star,

644
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:25,140
and then at the very
end, Luke Skywalker

645
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,850
uses the force to get past all the

646
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:30,460
tie fighters and to drop a torpedo
down a thermal exhaust port,

647
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,280
and to blow up the Death Star.

648
00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:36,530
Once again, the first draft
of the movie written by

649
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,210
environmentalists was a bit
different: the rebels

650
00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:42,330
didn't actually blow up the
Death Star. Instead they used

651
00:38:42,590 --> 00:38:45,290
other methods to slow the
intergalactic march of empire.

652
00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:49,920
For example, they set up programs for
people on planets about to be destroyed,

653
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
to produce luxury items like hemp
hacky sacks and gourmet coffee

654
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,760
for sale to inhabitants of the Death Star.

655
00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:57,210
Audience members will also
discover that there are plans afoot

656
00:38:57,220 --> 00:38:59,470
to encourage loads of troopers
and other citizens of the empire

657
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:01,280
to take eco-tours of doomed planets.

658
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:04,070
The purpose will be to show to one and all
that these planets are economically important

659
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,800
to the Empire and so should not be destroyed.

660
00:39:05,890 --> 00:39:09,430
In a surprise move that will get
viewers to the edges of their seats,

661
00:39:09,590 --> 00:39:12,340
other groups of rebels will file
lawsuits against the Empire,

662
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:15,970
attempting to show that the Environmental
Impact Statement that Darth Vader

663
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,880
was required to file, failed
to adequately support its decision

664
00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:20,320
that blowing up this planet would
cause "no significant impact".

665
00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:23,100
Viewers will thrill to learn
of plans to boycott items produced

666
00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:25,260
by corporations that have Darth
Vader on the board of directors,

667
00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:27,870
and they'll leap to their
feet in theaters worldwide

668
00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:30,570
when they see bags full of letters
written directly to Mr. Vader himself

669
00:39:30,610 --> 00:39:32,900
asking that he please not
blow up anymore planets.

670
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,090
Now, we all know that all
would be enough not only to

671
00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:39,580
bring the Empire to its knees,
but to make a damn fine and exciting movie.

672
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:41,480
The thing is: there's more.

673
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:44,550
Thousands of renegade rebels,
unhappy with what

674
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:47,000
they perceive as toadying on
the part of the mainstream rebels

675
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,220
decide, in a scene guaranteed
to bring tears to even the eyes

676
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:52,400
of the most cold-hearted
theatergoers, to stand on

677
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,170
the planets to be destroyed, link
arms, and sing "Give Peace a Chance."

678
00:39:56,330 --> 00:39:59,110
They send DVDs of that
to Darth Vader and his

679
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:01,470
boss the Grand Moff Tarkin, to whom they

680
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:03,550
also send wave after wave of loving kindness.

681
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:06,340
A the few rebels sneak aboard
the Death Star and lock themselves

682
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,440
down to various pieces of
equipment. And stirring debates

683
00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:11,020
are held onscreen as to
whether the rebels should

684
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:13,340
voluntarily surrender on approach
of the troopers, or whether

685
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,420
they should remain locked down to the end.

686
00:40:15,850 --> 00:40:18,880
And in a brilliant and
brave touch of authenticity,

687
00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:21,840
the rebels are never
able to come to consensus.

688
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:24,880
But there's more. Once inside the Death
Star, a splinter group breaks off,

689
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,260
they burn a couple of transporters,
and they etch "Galaxy Liberation Front".

690
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,870
And then another group breaks
off from that group and they

691
00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:34,640
finally make it to Darth
Vader's private room. And when

692
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,840
they get there, they sneak up behind him

693
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:39,370
and then they hit
him with a vegan cream pie.

694
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:42,190
And the directors decided
to cut that because

695
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:43,890
it was way too close to

696
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,140
a scene in another movie they
were developing at the same time

697
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:47,660
called "The Plot to Pie Hitler".

698
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:50,210
As the Death Star looms directly
overhead, a few of the rebels

699
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,140
advocate picking up weapons to fight back.

700
00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:54,940
And those rebels are
generally shouted down by

701
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040
pacifist rebels who argue that attacking

702
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200
those who run the Death
Star is "just another

703
00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:00,930
example of the Empire's harmful philosophy

704
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,720
coming in by the back door.'

705
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,010
"If we want to change
Darth Vader," they say,

706
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,840
"we must all first become
that change ourselves.

707
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:10,680
To change Darth Vader's heart,
we must first change our own.

708
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,770
We must, above all else,
have compassion for

709
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,010
Darth Vader, and remember that
he, too, was once a child."

710
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:19,430
So finally Leia, Luke, Han, Chewbacca,
and a couple of robots show up

711
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,910
and tell these others they've found a
way to blow up the whole Death Star.

712
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:24,300
And the rest of the rebels,
of course, are just  horrified.

713
00:41:24,340 --> 00:41:27,940
A scuffle breaks out between Leia,
Luke, Han, and Chewbacca and the two

714
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:29,210
robots on one side and the
pacifists on the other.

715
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,880
And the pacifists chase those four
from the room and from the film

716
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:33,370
which is not a big deal because
they are minor characters anyway.

717
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,080
But anyway, the way the
movie ends is that

718
00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:37,940
the Death Star looms closer
and closer and then you see

719
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:40,850
the Death Star, and then
you see the planet,

720
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,540
and then you see the Death Star,
and then you see the planet,

721
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,410
and then you see the Death Star
and you see the laser start to glow

722
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,300
this hellish red, and
then you see the planet again,

723
00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:48,250
and you see this little light --

724
00:41:48,310 --> 00:41:50,880
and what that is: that's the environmentalists
getting away before the planet gets blown up.

725
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,040
And then you see the Death
Star again and then it

726
00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:55,300
blows up the planet,
and then, the final

727
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:58,160
shot of the movie, which reveals
what complete triumph this was for the

728
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,960
rebels, is a still showing an

729
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,370
article on the lower left of
page 43 of the New Empire Times

730
00:42:03,410 --> 00:42:06,440
that devotes a full 3 sentences
to the destruction of the planet.

731
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:08,830
So it's like, "Yeah we got some press!"

732
00:42:10,210 --> 00:42:16,990
Premise IV

733
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,010
The culture as a whole and

734
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:27,000
most of its members
are insane.

735
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,480
The culture is driven by a death urge,

736
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,220
an urge to destroy life.

737
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,720
- The public really needs
to understand that no combination

738
00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:08,930
of alternative miracle fuels,
or biodiesel, or ethanol,

739
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,160
or nuclear, or sun, or solar,
or used french fry potato oil,

740
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:18,600
no combination of these things is going to
allow us to keep a happy, motoring society going.

741
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:24,290
- We are using up all the very
easily accessed energy sources:

742
00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:27,940
and we've really built this huge way
of life based on cheap oil, essentially.

743
00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:33,780
- The world as we know it, which
relies entirely on oil to function,

744
00:43:33,870 --> 00:43:36,550
is nearing its end.

745
00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:41,580
- We are headed for the crash.
That oil is not going to come again.

746
00:43:59,770 --> 00:44:03,060
Fort McMurray
Alberta, Canada

747
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:17,930
- The tar sands are probably one
of the biggest industrial

748
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:20,440
projects in the history of mankind.

749
00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:23,690
- The tar sands are the largest,

750
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:27,210
most destructive environmental
project on the planet right now.

751
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,010
- It's oil extraction,

752
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,230
it's some of the dirtiest oil on the planet,

753
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,750
which means that it takes
the most energy to extract,

754
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:40,850
and the reason that we're extracting this

755
00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:43,440
this particular brand of dirty, dirty, oil

756
00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:45,960
is because there's no other oil left to extract.

757
00:44:46,420 --> 00:44:48,160
- Tar sands really aren't oil.

758
00:44:48,190 --> 00:44:49,930
Effectively, the process by which you

759
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,850
mine and refine tar sands

760
00:44:51,870 --> 00:44:54,650
is adding about a hundred
million years of development

761
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,080
through a synthetic process.

762
00:44:57,090 --> 00:44:59,270
The tar sands deposit
is an area that covers

763
00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:01,920
the size of the state of
New York, or larger than England

764
00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:04,600
is already considered the largest industrial project

765
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,730
in human history, and it's barely begun.

766
00:45:08,290 --> 00:45:11,290
- They extract it from the sand by

767
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:14,140
steaming and heating water,
basically boiling it...

768
00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:19,230
...so the oil sits on top of the water like a froth,

769
00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:22,340
then they scrape it off, and that's the bitumen.

770
00:45:23,530 --> 00:45:26,600
- There's mining processes
and in situ processes,

771
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:29,840
and both of them are pretty
much trying to extract

772
00:45:29,870 --> 00:45:32,260
bitumen out of the sand.

773
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,540
- To produce one barrel of oil

774
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,790
you have to first, after
you've cleared off the ground

775
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:39,650
and broken all the trees down
and so forth, then dig a pit,

776
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:41,930
which can be up to two hundred feet deep.

777
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:44,790
For each barrel of oil, there's
four barrels of water used,

778
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,390
in a process called a slurry

779
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,080
where you spin it at a high speed,

780
00:45:48,110 --> 00:45:50,120
high velocity, with high
temperatures of water,

781
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:53,400
to separate the bitumen,
which is the pre-synthetic oil,

782
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,970
from the sands itself,
and all the clays and silts.

783
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,260
But that's after you've already
dug out what has to be

784
00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:59,990
to be hundreds of tons of Earth.

785
00:46:02,450 --> 00:46:06,940
- The energy that's required to
actually do that is approximately,

786
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:09,710
people say for almost every barrel of oil you need

787
00:46:09,730 --> 00:46:12,060
about a half a barrel of energy just
to produce this,

788
00:46:12,110 --> 00:46:14,030
so for every barrel of energy input,

789
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:16,310
two barrels of oil are produced,

790
00:46:16,350 --> 00:46:18,510
whereas with conventional
crude it was very,

791
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:20,900
very minor in terms of the energy

792
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:22,800
that's inputted to actually
get the crude oil out.

793
00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:26,330
So the ratio that's most important to
talk about is a ratio you could use

794
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,060
in a country like Iraq, where for
each barrel of oil you use to try to

795
00:46:30,070 --> 00:46:33,060
get more oil you'll get about
a hundred barrels back.

796
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:40,160
Fort Chipewyan
Alberta, Canada

797
00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:55,430
- The Athabasca River, which runs
through northern Alberta,

798
00:46:55,450 --> 00:46:59,090
where you have many different native
communities living along the river,

799
00:46:59,130 --> 00:47:04,250
is being sucked of its water to
fuel the tar sands operations.

800
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:09,280
- Because of the contamination of the river

801
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:12,060
from oil sands discharges

802
00:47:12,070 --> 00:47:15,180
of things like oil and grease and

803
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:17,420
untreated sewage into the Athabasca River,

804
00:47:17,450 --> 00:47:19,750
and sometimes there's accidents,

805
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,110
spills of these toxic chemicals

806
00:47:22,110 --> 00:47:24,450
directly into the Athabasca Rivers.

807
00:47:26,290 --> 00:47:29,780
- The community of Fort Chipewyan,
both the Mikisew Cree

808
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:31,950
and the Dene Chipewyan First Nation,

809
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:33,860
who have been fighting
and really at the front

810
00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:35,810
of raising the alarm about what's happening,

811
00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:38,840
and their community has been seeing all of this

812
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:42,570
rise in rare cancers, autoimmune diseases,

813
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,400
arsenic in the land,
the moose meat, the fish

814
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:49,840
are at high levels of
heavy metals, mercuries,

815
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:53,630
basically the whole environment
up there is contaminated.

816
00:47:55,090 --> 00:47:57,480
- How this is effecting my community is that

817
00:47:57,490 --> 00:48:00,060
it's killing off the people of Fort Chipewyan.

818
00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:04,600
It's what I've called before
"a slow, industrial genocide."

819
00:48:04,610 --> 00:48:06,020
I buried my auntie,

820
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:08,990
I buried my uncle, I got
an auntie living with it.

821
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:12,920
And this is a war for our lives,

822
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:15,250
because the government is allowing

823
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:18,080
the people of Fort Chip to die.

824
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:20,610
- The tar sands are not only fueling

825
00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:23,800
the second fastest rate of deforestation

826
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,480
in the world outside of
the Amazon River basin,

827
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:27,710
they're already the second fastest

828
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:30,240
contributor to climate
change in North America.

829
00:48:30,270 --> 00:48:33,770
And with the goals of production that
they're talking about, the CO2 emissions

830
00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:35,430
will make it so the only way

831
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:37,510
you could outstrip a
climate change contributor

832
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,190
for North America would
be to combine all

833
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:41,730
the coal-fired power plants from

834
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:45,010
Alberta to Arizona and in between,
across all of North America.

835
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,900
- I think that the tar
sands is the absurdity

836
00:48:48,940 --> 00:48:52,150
of still desiring oil

837
00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:54,020
when we know so well

838
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,140
that, for example, fresh water is just

839
00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:58,080
an elemental part of human existence

840
00:48:58,110 --> 00:49:00,230
and they're running full force towards

841
00:49:00,250 --> 00:49:02,690
extracting these last little bits of oil

842
00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:05,580
to sustain this plastic culture,

843
00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:07,230
this plastic civilization,

844
00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:10,310
to the destruction of the environment
in which we can live.

845
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,030
- People say it's like the
world's addicted to crack,

846
00:49:14,110 --> 00:49:17,820
and this is like the dirtiest
and most disgusting form of crack

847
00:49:17,850 --> 00:49:19,860
that'll keep it addicted
for a lot longer, right.

848
00:49:19,870 --> 00:49:21,440
This is actually what it is.

849
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,410
It is the most insane
thing that people are doing.

850
00:49:30,820 --> 00:49:32,630
- We probably agree that civilization's

851
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:35,330
going to crash, whether or
not we help bring this about.

852
00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:38,930
If you don't agree with this, we
probably have nothing to say to each other.

853
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:41,840
We probably also agree that
this crash will be messy.

854
00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:46,100
We agree further that since industrial
civilization is systematically dismantling

855
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,490
the ecological infrastructure of the planet...

856
00:49:48,670 --> 00:49:51,680
...the sooner civilization comes down,
whether or not we help it crash,

857
00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:55,840
the more life will remain afterwards
to support both humans and nonhumans.

858
00:49:57,310 --> 00:50:01,920
Figure IV

859
00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:08,130
- The genesis of Endgame, the book,

860
00:50:08,170 --> 00:50:11,310
was really because I did some talks

861
00:50:11,850 --> 00:50:15,150
around the possibility of fighting back.

862
00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:18,210
And the response by the
audience was really predictable.

863
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:21,050
If it was an audience made up of
sort of mainstream environmentalists

864
00:50:21,070 --> 00:50:22,990
and peace and social justice activists,

865
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:26,610
often, they would put up what
I've taken to calling a "Gandhi shield".

866
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:29,890
Which is, they would say the names "Martin
Luther King", "Dalai Lama", and "Gandhi"

867
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:33,060
again and again, as fast as they can,
to keep all evil thoughts at bay.

868
00:50:34,330 --> 00:50:38,190
And if it was grassroots environmentalists,

869
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:39,940
they would do the same thing
but then they would come

870
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:41,700
up to me afterwards and they would say,

871
00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:44,420
WHISPERING "Thank you so much
for bringing this up."

872
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:47,670
Pacifying Resistance

873
00:50:49,230 --> 00:50:52,880
- Especially in North America,
the pacifists and non-violent

874
00:50:52,990 --> 00:50:56,050
advocates have had a very defining role,

875
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,240
and even a censoring role, in determining

876
00:50:58,290 --> 00:51:00,760
what other people's participation can be

877
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:03,040
in a whole range of social struggles, and

878
00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:07,160
that the way that they've
affected social struggles

879
00:51:07,170 --> 00:51:10,230
has made it very much easier for the state

880
00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:11,820
to control those social struggles,

881
00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:13,960
that non-violence plays a function

882
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:16,640
of recuperating social struggles,

883
00:51:16,660 --> 00:51:19,510
of taking out their teeth
and making them harmless,

884
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,790
so that they can just exist in
this cesspool of democratic plurality.

885
00:51:27,170 --> 00:51:30,520
- I wonder, what happens to
that kind of energy or

886
00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:33,890
idealism or faith that something
is about to change

887
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:36,930
when it's certainly not going to change at all?

888
00:51:38,650 --> 00:51:41,200
- What are the false hopes that
keep us tied to the system?

889
00:51:41,230 --> 00:51:43,970
What are the false
hopes that bind us to

890
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:46,350
unlivable situations and
blind us to real possibilities?

891
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:48,850
Does anybody really think that
Weyerhauser's going to stop,

892
00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:50,650
deforesting because we asked nicely

893
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,060
that Monsanto will stop Monsantoing
because we ask nicely?

894
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:56,220
I was talking to this person in the
States several years ago and they said,

895
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:58,980
"If we can just get a Democrat in the
White House, things are going to be OK."

896
00:52:00,620 --> 00:52:03,340
- We've got a couple of myths
on the left that I would

897
00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:05,320
REALLY encourage us to get over.

898
00:52:05,350 --> 00:52:08,670
The first is that social change
happens by moral suasion.

899
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:11,850
It doesn't. It happens by force.

900
00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:16,490
- The problem with persuasion
as a strategy is that

901
00:52:16,590 --> 00:52:18,920
it only works on people who can actually

902
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:21,930
be convinced, and who can be

903
00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:24,460
relied upon to act from their position

904
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:26,200
after their minds have been changed.

905
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,940
And the problem is that we're not dealing with

906
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:31,910
individuals who can be convinced or persuaded,

907
00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:33,870
we're dealing mostly with large,

908
00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:38,330
abstract, social organizations,
and corporations which are

909
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:41,840
basically sociopaths made out
of huge numbers of people.

910
00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:47,380
- You can't argue with psychopaths,
you can't argue with fascists,

911
00:52:47,390 --> 00:52:49,920
and you can't argue with those

912
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:54,010
who are benefiting from an economic system.

913
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,400
You have to stop them through
some form of force,

914
00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:58,290
and that force can be violent or nonviolent.

915
00:52:58,570 --> 00:53:01,560
Could you have stopped Ted
Bundy by peaceful means?

916
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:06,680
- The Left, to a large extent subconsciously,

917
00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:09,200
has as its primary role

918
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:11,440
to make resistance harmless.

919
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,230
States have recognized that

920
00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:18,520
resistance will never disappear,
that struggles will never disappear

921
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:20,980
and in the past they
tried suppressing struggles

922
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
the first time that they
showed their heads, that there was

923
00:53:24,020 --> 00:53:26,100
any sign of them, and
that proved ineffective.

924
00:53:26,110 --> 00:53:29,180
So nowadays that way
that states rule is by

925
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,350
accepting the inevitability
of conflict and resistance,

926
00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:34,950
and just trying to manage it permanently.

927
00:53:34,990 --> 00:53:38,050
"Keep the march going,
there's nothing happening here!

928
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,520
There's nothing happening,
just one more line of police,

929
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:44,130
so please keep the march going!"

930
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:48,640
- Social movements in North America are locked

931
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:53,010
into this pacifist doctrine that is imposed by

932
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:55,240
the middle class reformists

933
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:58,080
who want to control
the movement and dictate

934
00:53:58,090 --> 00:54:00,090
how it conducts itself.

935
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,880
- Advocates of nonviolence
frequently say that nonviolence

936
00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:09,360
works, and the principal
examples that they use of that

937
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,540
are Gandhi in India and Martin
Luther King in the U.S.

938
00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:15,430
The problem with that is,
this constitutes a really great

939
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,280
historical whitewashing,
that in fact the resistance in

940
00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:21,360
India was incredibly
diverse, and Gandhi was

941
00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:23,370
a very important figure
within that resistance,

942
00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:26,970
but the resistance was by no
means pacifist in its entirety.

943
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,870
- Gandhi gets used as a way
to shut down conversation.

944
00:54:33,010 --> 00:54:36,020
- Especially in the West,
Gandhi is used as a way

945
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:38,470
to quell any ideas of

946
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:41,240
either direct action or what's
perceived as violence or,

947
00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:43,460
sort of, you know, resistance that

948
00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:46,900
goes beyond what is seen as a sort of a

949
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
pacifist or a peaceful means of resistance.

950
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,200
- For years, I really bought into the whole

951
00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:56,170
Gandhian myth that is really sort of

952
00:54:56,190 --> 00:55:00,000
forced down the throats of
activists in the United States,

953
00:55:00,110 --> 00:55:03,000
and the people who disabused
me of that myth were

954
00:55:03,070 --> 00:55:05,330
when I first actually
met some people from India.

955
00:55:05,340 --> 00:55:08,190
The people I talked to
certainly didn't deify him,

956
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:11,070
and many of them despised him.

957
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,320
And they felt he was a
collaborator and he was somebody

958
00:55:14,330 --> 00:55:16,340
whom the British could work with.

959
00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:21,590
- Gandhi's very well known in the West,

960
00:55:21,690 --> 00:55:25,020
but when you go to India, there's
a freedom fighter and revolutionary

961
00:55:25,070 --> 00:55:26,770
leader called Bhagat Singh,

962
00:55:26,780 --> 00:55:31,040
who's in India probably
almost as well known as Gandhi

963
00:55:31,070 --> 00:55:32,980
as a part of

964
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:36,650
the independence movement and a
leader in the independence movement.

965
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:40,150
But in the West, most people
probably have never heard his name.

966
00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:43,280
And the reason why that is, is that he used

967
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,860
direct action tactics.

968
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:48,560
There were generals of the
British army that were killed;

969
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,840
there was a bomb thrown
in a British assembly to

970
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:54,380
basically attract the
attention of the public;

971
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:58,040
there were weapons that people
were getting off of railway cars.

972
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,630
- With Gandhi and the
Indian National Congress,

973
00:56:03,630 --> 00:56:06,170
where you had the moderates
and the extremists,

974
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:08,950
the moderates were legal;
constitutional reform

975
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,990
was their only method,

976
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:15,130
and they were criticized for
being a middle class clique,

977
00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:18,690
for being too slow,
for being too legalistic,

978
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,930
and for being basically ineffective.

979
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:24,050
The extremists, on the other
hand, were accused of being

980
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,140
too aggressive, of being too fast
and reckless and irresponsible.

981
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,290
- Gandhi basically got negotiating power

982
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:36,110
from the fact that there were
other elements in the struggle

983
00:56:36,140 --> 00:56:38,600
which were even more
threatening to British dominance.

984
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,380
So the British specifically
chose to dialogue with

985
00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:45,190
Gandhi because he was,
perhaps for them, the least

986
00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:48,190
threatening of the important
elements of resistance.

987
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:51,230
- Gandhi came in as
being the middleman.

988
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:54,930
His theory of nonviolent,
passive resistance

989
00:56:54,970 --> 00:56:59,200
seemed to be a bridge between
the extremists and the moderates.

990
00:56:59,550 --> 00:57:02,910
- The British were bled white after WWII,

991
00:57:03,050 --> 00:57:05,620
and didn't have the
morale left anymore for

992
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,650
a big fight, and they
helped choose somebody

993
00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:11,070
that they could work with.

994
00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:14,320
They knew a revolution was coming and they
wanted to blunt it as much as they could.

995
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,670
- India went from being
a colony to a neocolony.

996
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:21,300
The British were still able to
maintain their interests, less directly,

997
00:57:21,370 --> 00:57:25,620
with Indians being in
positions of management.

998
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,780
- My problem isn't with

999
00:57:33,610 --> 00:57:36,870
somebody doing nonviolent
actions, it never has been.

1000
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:39,210
I mean, I say all the
time that we need it all.

1001
00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:42,000
My problem is that

1002
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,530
so many pacifists, especially
in the United States,

1003
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:49,460
end up not supporting

1004
00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:52,170
more radical or militant work.

1005
00:57:53,740 --> 00:57:56,500
- The problem when this
debate comes up is that

1006
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,980
you can't just assume
that people that are

1007
00:58:00,990 --> 00:58:04,040
resisting and are using
a means of resistance

1008
00:58:04,130 --> 00:58:07,090
haven't thought about what
they're doing. And that's what

1009
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,230
I think is often the
problem. When people

1010
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,060
decide to take certain actions
and when people decide

1011
00:58:12,090 --> 00:58:14,280
that, "Hey, you know,
our marches aren't enough,"

1012
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:15,800
or they're doing this or doing that,

1013
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:18,260
there's this assumption
by a lot of people that

1014
00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:21,680
want to toe the Gandhi line that,
"Oh, they're just not thinking about it."

1015
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,260
- What most states will choose
to do in similar circumstances

1016
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:29,020
is to find the elements
of the resistance

1017
00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:31,550
that are most easy to control
and most easy to co-opt,

1018
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,930
to negotiate with them, and then
to hand over power to THEM in order

1019
00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:39,810
to continue the system
that had already existed.

1020
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:43,990
- So again, you have the state
doing the same thing it did

1021
00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:47,000
with Gandhi and Martin Luther
King it does with, for example,

1022
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:50,310
the environmental movement. So
it invites the responsible leaders

1023
00:58:50,350 --> 00:58:53,310
of the environmental
movement into inquiries,

1024
00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:56,720
government commissions,
debates. It recognizes them --

1025
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,890
they're the legitimate leaders --
because again,

1026
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,880
it doesn't want the movement to begin to
adopt more militant resistance tactics.

1027
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:07,870
- The powerful do not ever
give up without a struggle.

1028
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,990
Those are the famous
words of Frederick Douglass

1029
00:59:10,030 --> 00:59:12,670
when he said, "Power concedes
nothing without a demand.

1030
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:14,990
It never has, and it never will."

1031
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:26,960
Figure V

1032
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,780
If we use more efficient electricity,

1033
00:59:32,980 --> 00:59:35,690
appliances, we can save this much

1034
00:59:35,730 --> 00:59:37,990
off of the global warming pollution that

1035
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,820
would otherwise be put
into the atmosphere.

1036
00:59:40,850 --> 00:59:44,160
If we use other end-use
efficiency this much,

1037
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:46,510
if we have higher-mileage
cars, this much.

1038
00:59:46,550 --> 00:59:48,260
And all these begin to add up:

1039
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,730
other transport efficiency,
renewable technology.

1040
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:54,150
We have everything we need,

1041
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,350
save, perhaps, political will.

1042
00:59:57,730 --> 01:00:00,380
But you know what, in
America, political will

1043
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:02,470
is a renewable resource.

1044
01:00:04,550 --> 01:00:07,040
- When we see solutions,
all the so-called solutions

1045
01:00:07,090 --> 01:00:08,820
put forward to global
warming, the thing

1046
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:11,300
they all have in common
is that they take

1047
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:14,710
industrial civilization
as a given, and they take

1048
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:18,340
the natural world as
the dependent variable.

1049
01:00:18,370 --> 01:00:20,550
It's all about saving civilization.

1050
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,800
And that's entirely backwards.

1051
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,170
What it should be is:
we need to do whatever

1052
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,220
it takes to save
life on the planet.

1053
01:00:31,550 --> 01:00:33,960
- In the next 40 to 50 years,
we're going to see the

1054
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:37,060
extinction of more species
than we've seen in the past

1055
01:00:37,090 --> 01:00:38,950
65 million years.

1056
01:00:38,970 --> 01:00:42,130
That, to me, is a red light,

1057
01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:45,840
and a siren going off
as a call to people

1058
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:47,990
who will cut through the crap and

1059
01:00:48,010 --> 01:00:50,040
do what is necessary
to protect the Earth

1060
01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:52,810
for here and now, and
for future generations.

1061
01:00:52,850 --> 01:00:55,100
It is you that are going
to have to answer to your

1062
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,190
children, 50-75 years from now

1063
01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:00,210
when they ask what you
did during the eco-wars.

1064
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,240
And in that sense,

1065
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,410
each one of us has to live the life

1066
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,680
today, at this very moment, doing the things

1067
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,540
that we would be proud to tell our ancestors about.

1068
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,340
If we are serious about saving life on Earth

1069
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,630
we've got to start fighting back

1070
01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:21,210
in the ways that people do
when they realize they need

1071
01:01:21,230 --> 01:01:23,420
to form a serious resistance movement.

1072
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:27,420
- Most indigenous populations
who maintain any

1073
01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:29,950
sense of a traditional worldview

1074
01:01:30,010 --> 01:01:33,910
know that the way of life that

1075
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:36,160
settlers society has imposed on this

1076
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,600
land is unsustainable.

1077
01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:42,040
Yet, there has been a sense

1078
01:01:42,090 --> 01:01:44,550
that we really need to kind of

1079
01:01:44,590 --> 01:01:46,450
wait until it collapses,

1080
01:01:46,490 --> 01:01:48,600
or wait until they're done doing,

1081
01:01:48,610 --> 01:01:51,060
or they've reached their
limit and they can't

1082
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,960
continue the way that
they've been going on,

1083
01:01:54,030 --> 01:01:56,330
and be patient.

1084
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,430
Fuck patience

1085
01:02:11,180 --> 01:02:13,630
I think really the big problem is power,

1086
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:16,610
and that's something liberals
have a lot of trouble kind of

1087
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:18,540
thinking about or wrapping
their heads around.

1088
01:02:18,550 --> 01:02:21,320
And the problem is that
this culture has

1089
01:02:21,330 --> 01:02:23,930
clearly defined hierarchy.
There are people

1090
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,300
who are clearly in power,
and who benefit

1091
01:02:26,330 --> 01:02:28,380
from power, and benefit
from destroying the planet,

1092
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:30,610
and who benefit from
exploiting other people,

1093
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:32,460
and they've been doing
that for a long time.

1094
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:36,450
And their power is more important
to them than anything else.

1095
01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:40,090
- There is no personal
consumer choice that is

1096
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:43,060
going to dismantle the systems of

1097
01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:45,630
power that are behind the
destruction of our planet.

1098
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:48,810
What we need is organized
political resistance.

1099
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:52,510
- You cannot just simply ask
the state for these reforms,

1100
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,360
or for any kind of gains or concessions,

1101
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,810
you have to force them to do it.

1102
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,590
And that's the power of disruption.

1103
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,870
It was a bloody day at the Mohawk Indian

1104
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,290
community in Oka, Quebec, near Montreal.

1105
01:03:03,350 --> 01:03:05,620
"Provincial police in riot gear stormed

1106
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,690
the barricades the Mohawks had set up.

1107
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:10,550
There were clouds of tear
gas, a hail of bullets,

1108
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:12,890
and in the midst of the battle, a policeman

1109
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,070
was killed. All this because of

1110
01:03:15,110 --> 01:03:18,450
a dispute over a piece of
forest the Indians claim is theirs,

1111
01:03:18,570 --> 01:03:21,040
a forest town council wants to bulldoze

1112
01:03:21,070 --> 01:03:23,260
to expand the local golf course."

1113
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,610
"Police retreated as
abruptly as they'd attacked,

1114
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:27,900
leaving behind their cruisers.
They also left a heavy

1115
01:03:27,940 --> 01:03:30,020
front-end loader which the Mohawks

1116
01:03:30,030 --> 01:03:31,960
immediately put to their own use.

1117
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,190
The police cruisers, crushed and useless,

1118
01:03:34,210 --> 01:03:36,180
became barricades themselves."

1119
01:03:36,830 --> 01:03:39,390
We treat these trees and
the land like our mother.

1120
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:42,220
These people are raping our mother.

1121
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:45,160
What would you do if
they raped your mother?

1122
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,210
- These politicians are servants of the

1123
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:52,060
system; it's their job to keep
it going, it's their job

1124
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,660
to keep profit rolling
in for the ruling class.

1125
01:03:55,210 --> 01:03:58,170
And they will never, ever, act in the

1126
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,320
people's interests or the interests of the planet.

1127
01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:02,050
It doesn't matter what we say,

1128
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,200
the only thing that they
will respond to is

1129
01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:06,380
force, and the threat
of social disruption.

1130
01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:09,150
And if we allow them to stay in power,

1131
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,320
they will always take back any gain

1132
01:04:11,530 --> 01:04:13,750
that we manage to get from them.

1133
01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:15,960
- It's really important
to recognize that

1134
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:18,090
no struggle is done,

1135
01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:20,420
that there's not any possibility

1136
01:04:20,450 --> 01:04:22,680
of any lasting victory
as long as the state

1137
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:25,180
still exists, but we can
definitely see in the histories

1138
01:04:25,210 --> 01:04:27,150
of struggle, small gains have been won,

1139
01:04:27,180 --> 01:04:29,150
and ways in which we've
empowered ourselves

1140
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,530
by the use of all tactics, and I think

1141
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,710
it's not even important to

1142
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:36,560
really say if a particular tactic is

1143
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,860
violent or not because this is just

1144
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,740
kind of a moral category
meant to restrict action.

1145
01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:44,040
I think it's more important to look

1146
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,540
at which tactics can be empowering,

1147
01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:49,010
and liberating, and useful.

1148
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,770
- Purely above-ground
means are designed to

1149
01:04:55,790 --> 01:04:58,630
facilitate the expansion
of global capitalism.

1150
01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:01,950
- These are serious power structures

1151
01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:03,930
that are making vast sums of money.

1152
01:05:03,970 --> 01:05:06,160
They are backed up by

1153
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:08,540
the power of the armed
state in every way imaginable.

1154
01:05:08,550 --> 01:05:10,510
They've got armies on
their side, they own

1155
01:05:10,550 --> 01:05:12,990
the mass media, the banks,
all the money is on their side.

1156
01:05:13,030 --> 01:05:15,990
- If there's any doubt
about the leadership that

1157
01:05:16,090 --> 01:05:19,290
our military is showing,
you just need to look at

1158
01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:21,140
this F-18 fighter

1159
01:05:21,390 --> 01:05:23,710
and the light-armored vehicle behind it.

1160
01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:27,100
The army and marine
corps have been testing

1161
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:30,660
this vehicle on a mixture of biofuels,

1162
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,980
and this navy fighter jet

1163
01:05:33,690 --> 01:05:35,990
appropriately called the "Green Hornet"

1164
01:05:36,510 --> 01:05:38,810
will be flown for the first time in just

1165
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,530
a few days, on Earth Day.

1166
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:44,680
- Crazy Horse one-eight,
request permission to engage.

1167
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:46,360
- Picking up the wounded?

1168
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:48,990
- Yeah, we're trying to
get permission to engage.

1169
01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:51,600
- Come on, let us shoot!

1170
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,850
- Bushmaster, Crazy Horse one-eight.

1171
01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:58,720
- They're taking him.

1172
01:05:59,970 --> 01:06:02,610
- Bushmaster, Crazy Horse one-eight.

1173
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,160
- This is Bushmaster seven, go ahead.

1174
01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:11,100
- Roger. We have a black SUV,
or Bongo truck picking

1175
01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:13,850
up the bodies. Request
permission to engage.

1176
01:06:15,370 --> 01:06:19,460
- Bushmaster seven, roger. This is
Bushmaster seven, roger. Engage.

1177
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:21,990
- One-eight, engage. Clear.

1178
01:06:22,270 --> 01:06:24,070
- Come on!

1179
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,150
- Clear.

1180
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,810
So if the law will
not do the right thing,

1181
01:06:47,850 --> 01:06:50,430
other people will have
to do the right thing,

1182
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,290
and they'll have to do the right thing by

1183
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,920
breaking the law. And that

1184
01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:55,890
precedent has been set many times

1185
01:06:55,930 --> 01:06:58,030
throughout our history: the people

1186
01:06:58,070 --> 01:07:00,330
who saved the Jews
from the German Nazis

1187
01:07:00,370 --> 01:07:02,740
broke the law for
higher ethical purpose.

1188
01:07:02,790 --> 01:07:05,200
The people who liberated slaves in our

1189
01:07:05,230 --> 01:07:07,620
country through the
underground railroad system

1190
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,420
to protect them from slave masters and a

1191
01:07:10,450 --> 01:07:13,650
very barbaric law in
the United States at that time.

1192
01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:16,120
They did the right thing.
They broke the law

1193
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:17,960
for higher ethical purpose.

1194
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,300
- We need to start and get out there

1195
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,660
and go beyond hitting "Like" on
Facebook and signing online petitions.

1196
01:07:27,700 --> 01:07:29,890
We need to be out there
in the real world fighting back.

1197
01:07:32,110 --> 01:07:34,370
- I think one of the things
that we really have to accept

1198
01:07:34,420 --> 01:07:37,750
and internalize is that
the majority of institutions,

1199
01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:39,570
and the majority of people,

1200
01:07:39,590 --> 01:07:41,000
are never going to be on our side.

1201
01:07:41,050 --> 01:07:43,360
And so we have to sit down --

1202
01:07:43,410 --> 01:07:45,500
as individual activists

1203
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:47,160
and as communities of resistance,

1204
01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:49,320
as a culture of resistance --
and we have to say

1205
01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:53,540
"Okay, well, what will it take to stop
this culture from destroying the planet?"

1206
01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:56,210
You know, part of the
answer is obviously that

1207
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,220
persuasion hasn't worked and persuasion

1208
01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:01,860
is not going to work.
If we want to be...

1209
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:05,330
...successful, then we have to
look at what resistance

1210
01:08:05,380 --> 01:08:08,110
movements in the past have done,
and what they've learned

1211
01:08:08,140 --> 01:08:10,080
and kind of the different phases

1212
01:08:10,090 --> 01:08:11,780
that they've gone through
as they've tried to

1213
01:08:11,810 --> 01:08:13,880
assert themselves and
try to be successful.

1214
01:08:15,610 --> 01:08:17,910
- When I say "organize
political resistance,"

1215
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,580
I mean we need to
face power head-on.

1216
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,380
Once you name power,

1217
01:08:22,670 --> 01:08:25,170
you will find that
power is sociopathic,

1218
01:08:25,210 --> 01:08:26,970
that the people in
charge will do whatever

1219
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,600
it takes to shut you up.

1220
01:08:30,570 --> 01:08:32,470
- The thing about when
you enter into a greater

1221
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:34,340
period of social conflict,

1222
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:36,740
what you don't want
is people promoting

1223
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:39,020
non-violence because
that's going to disarm

1224
01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:41,680
the people -- it's going to
disarm the people in the face

1225
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,150
of an aggressive enemy,
and in the face

1226
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:46,530
of hard social conditions.

1227
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:49,260
You want them to have
a stronger fighting spirit

1228
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:52,670
because without a fighting spirit,
you lack the will to resist.

1229
01:08:56,620 --> 01:08:58,540
- The smartest thing the Nazis did

1230
01:08:58,590 --> 01:09:01,270
was they made it so that at every
step of the way, it was in the Jews'

1231
01:09:01,290 --> 01:09:03,230
rational best interest to not resist.

1232
01:09:03,260 --> 01:09:04,700
Would you rather get an ID card,

1233
01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:06,880
or do you want to resist
and possibly get killed?

1234
01:09:06,890 --> 01:09:08,680
Do you want to move to a ghetto,

1235
01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:11,110
or do you want to resist
and possibly get killed?

1236
01:09:11,150 --> 01:09:12,890
Do you want to get on a cattle car,

1237
01:09:12,930 --> 01:09:15,170
or do you want to resist
and possibly get killed?

1238
01:09:15,380 --> 01:09:17,040
You want to take a shower,

1239
01:09:17,070 --> 01:09:19,100
or do you want to resist
and possibly get killed?

1240
01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:21,300
At every step of the way,
it was in their rational

1241
01:09:21,310 --> 01:09:23,100
self-interest to not resist.

1242
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,140
But I'll tell you
something very important,

1243
01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:29,450
which is: the Jews who participated
in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

1244
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:32,210
had a higher rate of survival
than those who went along.

1245
01:09:33,150 --> 01:09:36,930
- I think that if any of us were
alive in Nazi Germany right now,

1246
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:40,010
we would know what a resistance
movement should be doing.

1247
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:41,910
And we need to think about

1248
01:09:42,430 --> 01:09:44,730
the culture of industrial civilization

1249
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:48,030
as if it's a culture of occupation,

1250
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,040
because it is.

1251
01:10:07,580 --> 01:10:12,480
Figure VI

1252
01:10:21,790 --> 01:10:25,220
- If Nazis or other fascists
took over North America,

1253
01:10:28,210 --> 01:10:30,220
what would we all do?

1254
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:35,150
What would we do if they implemented
Mussolini's definition of fascism:

1255
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,520
"Fascism should more appropriately
be called corporatism

1256
01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:39,250
because it is a merger of
state and corporate power."

1257
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:51,340
What if this occupied country
called itself a democracy,

1258
01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:54,220
but most everyone understood
elections to be shams,

1259
01:10:54,260 --> 01:10:57,190
with citizens allowed to choose between
different wings of the same fascists,

1260
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,620
(or, following Mussolini, Corporate) party.

1261
01:10:59,970 --> 01:11:03,710
What if anti-government activity was
opposed by storm troopers and secret police?

1262
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:05,400
Would you fight back?

1263
01:11:05,420 --> 01:11:08,500
If there already existed a resistance
movement, would you join it?

1264
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,440
Would you resist if the fascists irradiated
the countryside, poisoned food supplies,

1265
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:15,600
made rivers unfit for
swimming and so filthy

1266
01:11:15,610 --> 01:11:17,710
you wouldn't even dream
of drinking from anymore?

1267
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:23,280
If fascists systematically
deforested the continent, would you join

1268
01:11:23,290 --> 01:11:26,320
an underground army of resistance,
head to the forests, and from there

1269
01:11:26,350 --> 01:11:29,520
to boardrooms and the halls of the
Reichstag to pick off the occupying deforesters

1270
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:32,410
and, most especially, those that
give them their marching orders?

1271
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,030
Give me a threshold.
Give me a specific point

1272
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:42,460
at which you'll finally take a stand.

1273
01:11:42,690 --> 01:11:45,000
If you can't or won't
give that threshold, why not?

1274
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:03,000
Inspired by Endgame
Volumes I and II by Derrick Jensen

1276
01:12:04,305 --> 01:13:04,265
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