1 00:00:06,479 --> 00:00:08,479 ♪ intermittent percussive beats ♪ 2 00:00:59,604 --> 00:01:01,771 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 3 00:01:12,854 --> 00:01:15,479 I don't know. I just like coming-of-age stories. 4 00:01:15,479 --> 00:01:17,729 There's something about them. 5 00:01:21,355 --> 00:01:23,105 Not... 6 00:01:24,188 --> 00:01:25,687 ...hero versus villain. 7 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:40,021 Maybe it's the trans part of me that feels like 8 00:01:40,021 --> 00:01:42,271 life is a coming-of-age story. 9 00:01:49,604 --> 00:01:51,896 I'm not the person that people think I am. 10 00:01:53,063 --> 00:01:54,437 I just know that. 11 00:03:00,313 --> 00:03:02,646 Hold on. I've got to take this call. 12 00:03:02,646 --> 00:03:04,979 I've got to take this call. 13 00:03:04,979 --> 00:03:06,646 Hello. 14 00:03:10,979 --> 00:03:12,646 Hello? 15 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:18,313 Hello? 16 00:03:22,646 --> 00:03:24,479 Yes, it is. 17 00:03:26,813 --> 00:03:28,313 I do. 18 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:35,437 Oh, my God. 19 00:03:36,437 --> 00:03:39,188 - Oh, my God! 20 00:03:40,146 --> 00:03:42,021 What did he commute it to? 21 00:03:44,521 --> 00:03:46,271 Oh. 22 00:03:48,021 --> 00:03:50,355 Oh, I can't tell you... 23 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:52,521 I can't tell you how happy I am. 24 00:03:52,521 --> 00:03:54,938 Thank you so much. How do I... 25 00:03:54,938 --> 00:03:57,521 He's gonna announce it in a couple of minutes? 26 00:03:57,521 --> 00:03:59,687 And how do we tell her? 27 00:04:04,271 --> 00:04:06,021 Vince! 28 00:04:09,355 --> 00:04:11,313 I'm sorry to interrupt you. 29 00:04:11,313 --> 00:04:14,521 I just got a call from the President's counsel. 30 00:04:14,521 --> 00:04:17,105 It's commuted plus 120 days. 31 00:04:17,105 --> 00:04:19,230 - Are you serious? - Yeah, the... 32 00:04:19,230 --> 00:04:20,687 Let's do it out here. 33 00:04:20,687 --> 00:04:22,562 The President's counsel just called me. 34 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:24,604 He's gonna announce it in a couple of minutes. 35 00:04:24,604 --> 00:04:26,355 I'm pretty speechless. 36 00:04:26,355 --> 00:04:27,938 I'm gonna start crying. 37 00:04:27,938 --> 00:04:29,479 Holy shit! 38 00:04:32,854 --> 00:04:35,188 Fucking shit. 39 00:04:41,313 --> 00:04:42,437 It's just... 40 00:04:42,437 --> 00:04:44,230 I just... I just... 41 00:04:45,063 --> 00:04:46,938 I can't even fucking... 42 00:04:48,521 --> 00:04:50,355 It's crazy. 43 00:04:50,355 --> 00:04:52,562 Jesus fucking Christ. 44 00:04:56,021 --> 00:04:59,979 First of all...let's be clear, 45 00:04:59,979 --> 00:05:03,854 Chelsea Manning has served 46 00:05:03,854 --> 00:05:06,521 a tough prison sentence. 47 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:11,188 The sentence that she received was disproportionate 48 00:05:11,188 --> 00:05:15,687 relative to what other leakers had received. 49 00:05:16,979 --> 00:05:21,188 She took responsibility for her crime. 50 00:05:23,813 --> 00:05:28,188 It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentence. 51 00:05:29,813 --> 00:05:31,687 - Nancy just got the order... - I just got it. 52 00:05:31,687 --> 00:05:33,604 ...with the Barack Obama signature. 53 00:05:33,604 --> 00:05:36,437 - Oh, my God! - So that is in possession. 54 00:05:36,437 --> 00:05:38,271 Oh, God. 55 00:05:56,562 --> 00:05:58,938 - This is a lot to process. - Yeah, it is. 56 00:05:58,938 --> 00:06:00,813 - These types of huge changes. - Yeah, yeah. 57 00:06:00,813 --> 00:06:01,979 So... 58 00:06:05,479 --> 00:06:07,896 You know, we're here, Chelsea. We're thrilled for you. 59 00:06:07,896 --> 00:06:10,396 But it doesn't mean it's all just simple. 60 00:06:25,396 --> 00:06:27,021 - An inmate 61 00:06:27,021 --> 00:06:29,604 at a military correctional complex... 62 00:06:29,604 --> 00:06:32,188 - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. 63 00:06:32,188 --> 00:06:34,479 This call is from a correction facility 64 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:37,313 and is subject to monitoring and recording. 65 00:06:37,313 --> 00:06:39,355 This is a prepaid call from... 66 00:06:39,355 --> 00:06:41,479 - Manning. 67 00:06:43,979 --> 00:06:48,105 Hey. So, you're on today's New York Times. 68 00:06:49,771 --> 00:06:52,562 And your story is upper right-hand corner, baby. 69 00:06:53,437 --> 00:06:55,479 Yay! 70 00:06:55,479 --> 00:06:57,896 He had to be a human being for this to work. 71 00:06:57,896 --> 00:07:00,437 We didn't know if he was or not, right? 72 00:07:00,437 --> 00:07:01,854 I didn't know. 73 00:07:07,562 --> 00:07:08,729 Yeah? 74 00:07:11,562 --> 00:07:13,813 I got the Elle magazine. 75 00:07:13,813 --> 00:07:15,729 Hold on. I'm running off to get it. 76 00:07:16,938 --> 00:07:19,230 Where did that thing go? Oh, here it is. 77 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:22,437 I got the Elle. They didn't have Marie Claire. 78 00:07:22,437 --> 00:07:24,396 But it's gonna come in tomorrow. 79 00:07:36,813 --> 00:07:38,854 Yes. And bow... 80 00:07:38,854 --> 00:07:41,479 And a bow. Bows on the shoulders. 81 00:07:46,521 --> 00:07:47,604 Yes? 82 00:07:48,479 --> 00:07:50,021 Six women. 83 00:07:52,938 --> 00:07:55,813 - Far left. A little suit. - Yeah. 84 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:01,938 Yeah. That's cute. 85 00:08:01,938 --> 00:08:04,355 - Vincent? - Yes, ma'am. 86 00:08:04,355 --> 00:08:07,437 Commander, sir. I'm gonna be there to make sure she's safe. 87 00:08:07,437 --> 00:08:09,771 - That's great. - You know, we did her clemency. 88 00:08:09,771 --> 00:08:11,105 We're her clemency lawyers. 89 00:08:11,105 --> 00:08:13,437 We're gonna make sure this clemency happens. 90 00:08:13,437 --> 00:08:14,771 She's really worried 91 00:08:14,771 --> 00:08:16,646 that she's gonna do something stupid. 92 00:08:16,646 --> 00:08:18,437 What does that mean? 93 00:08:18,437 --> 00:08:20,021 Well, what she kept saying was, 94 00:08:20,021 --> 00:08:22,938 "I might run away. You guys should be aware of that." 95 00:08:22,938 --> 00:08:24,687 And I said, "You're not... 96 00:08:24,687 --> 00:08:27,479 Once you're with us, you won't be able to run away." 97 00:08:27,479 --> 00:08:29,729 I don't think people realize how traumatic 98 00:08:29,729 --> 00:08:31,063 getting out of jail is. 99 00:08:31,063 --> 00:08:32,979 Imagine going from being in the military 100 00:08:32,979 --> 00:08:34,896 - to being incarcerated. - I know. 101 00:08:34,896 --> 00:08:37,813 Because people who are in the military and get out 102 00:08:37,813 --> 00:08:40,105 - have difficulty transitioning. - That's right. 103 00:08:40,105 --> 00:08:42,479 She needs to go figure out her life. 104 00:08:46,854 --> 00:08:48,813 Having been in the military, 105 00:08:48,813 --> 00:08:52,105 I can't imagine making a decision like that. 106 00:08:52,105 --> 00:08:54,813 I just can't. No chance I would've done that. 107 00:08:59,562 --> 00:09:01,896 It takes a rare historical person 108 00:09:01,896 --> 00:09:05,646 who is willing to sacrifice personal freedom 109 00:09:05,646 --> 00:09:07,896 and all the privileges of life, 110 00:09:07,896 --> 00:09:11,271 doing what he or she thinks is the right thing to do. 111 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:17,729 You have to have a little bit of a sense of self-importance 112 00:09:17,729 --> 00:09:19,437 about yourself... 113 00:09:20,646 --> 00:09:22,521 ...a bit of ignorance... 114 00:09:23,854 --> 00:09:26,188 ...a little bit of a sense of optimism. 115 00:09:30,396 --> 00:09:33,521 Mostly, they're just people who, deep down, 116 00:09:33,521 --> 00:09:35,771 feel as though there's some problem 117 00:09:35,771 --> 00:09:38,021 or something's really wrong. 118 00:10:09,562 --> 00:10:11,562 Yeah. 119 00:10:25,271 --> 00:10:28,021 I'm particularly bitter that a Commander in Chief, 120 00:10:28,021 --> 00:10:30,521 in a time of war, would pardon a traitor. 121 00:10:30,521 --> 00:10:32,604 Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan 122 00:10:32,604 --> 00:10:33,896 released a statement saying, 123 00:10:33,896 --> 00:10:37,063 "Chelsea Manning's treachery put American lives at risk." 124 00:10:37,063 --> 00:10:39,771 This young man or woman, or whatever, 125 00:10:39,771 --> 00:10:42,105 should have been hung. 126 00:10:42,105 --> 00:10:43,604 I don't think it's right. 127 00:10:43,604 --> 00:10:46,604 She should serve her time. 35 years. 128 00:10:47,437 --> 00:10:48,687 100 years ago, 129 00:10:48,687 --> 00:10:50,938 they'd have just taken him out and shot him. 130 00:10:52,313 --> 00:10:56,063 The debate about how much harm was caused, 131 00:10:56,063 --> 00:10:58,687 or wasn't, by her actions, is ongoing. 132 00:10:58,687 --> 00:11:00,854 National security officials will tell you 133 00:11:00,854 --> 00:11:03,437 Manning gravely harmed national security. 134 00:11:03,437 --> 00:11:05,604 So far as actually killing someone, 135 00:11:05,604 --> 00:11:08,271 there's absolutely no credible allegation of that happening. 136 00:11:08,271 --> 00:11:10,355 And another factor, as you alluded to, 137 00:11:10,355 --> 00:11:13,604 seems to be the stress for Manning's gender transition. 138 00:11:13,604 --> 00:11:14,771 Chelsea Manning 139 00:11:14,771 --> 00:11:16,938 attempted to commit suicide twice last year. 140 00:11:16,938 --> 00:11:19,479 Is it clear that the gender transition concern 141 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:21,979 was part of this, that she'd been going through...? 142 00:11:21,979 --> 00:11:23,979 It seems to be. 143 00:11:34,146 --> 00:11:36,355 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 144 00:12:08,063 --> 00:12:10,230 ♪ brooding piano music ♪ 145 00:12:36,938 --> 00:12:38,896 ♪ tone of music brightening ♪ 146 00:13:00,896 --> 00:13:03,021 - Another day. - Hey. 147 00:13:03,021 --> 00:13:04,896 Another day in the woods. 148 00:13:34,479 --> 00:13:36,979 God, it's such a beautiful sight. 149 00:13:47,687 --> 00:13:50,230 I wasn't handling it very well initially. 150 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:52,105 - You... - Aargh. 151 00:13:52,105 --> 00:13:54,938 We were in an actually incredibly stressful situation 152 00:13:54,938 --> 00:13:56,938 where I thought I was gonna vomit. 153 00:13:56,938 --> 00:14:00,146 - Um, so... - You wanted to vomit, too? 154 00:14:00,146 --> 00:14:02,271 Yeah. I really did. I was, like, "Oh, 155 00:14:02,271 --> 00:14:04,188 I'm gonna be super embarrassed 156 00:14:04,188 --> 00:14:08,355 if I throw up in front of these security guys." 157 00:14:08,355 --> 00:14:10,146 - We're still trying to adjust. - Yeah. 158 00:14:10,146 --> 00:14:12,230 To find a soft landing. So, I think, today, 159 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:15,271 just kind of... vegging out a little bit 160 00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:17,813 and, like, you know, like, learning. 161 00:14:19,313 --> 00:14:20,979 Learning how to... 162 00:14:20,979 --> 00:14:23,479 I mean, for me, learning how to... 163 00:14:23,479 --> 00:14:25,021 Yeah. 164 00:14:25,021 --> 00:14:27,271 ...be again. 165 00:14:27,271 --> 00:14:30,105 Yeah, fuck, I mean, you're, like... 166 00:14:30,105 --> 00:14:32,063 - Fuck. 167 00:14:32,063 --> 00:14:34,313 - It's still sort of amazing. - Yeah. 168 00:14:34,313 --> 00:14:36,521 And unimaginable, like, this is... 169 00:14:37,396 --> 00:14:39,230 ...this is where you are 170 00:14:39,230 --> 00:14:41,646 on May 17, 2017. 171 00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:44,646 - Yeah. - And not 2045. 172 00:14:44,646 --> 00:14:47,230 - How the fuck did I get here? - Yeah. 173 00:14:47,230 --> 00:14:49,521 You ever find yourself asking yourself that? 174 00:14:49,521 --> 00:14:51,896 - Yeah. Yeah, I do. - "How did I get here?" 175 00:14:52,854 --> 00:14:54,729 Yeah. 176 00:14:54,729 --> 00:14:57,979 It just feels so natural for me to do whatever I want... 177 00:14:57,979 --> 00:15:00,063 - Yeah. Yeah. - ...in nature. 178 00:15:01,355 --> 00:15:03,105 You get past this idea 179 00:15:03,105 --> 00:15:05,355 of, like, "Oh, a miracle might happen." 180 00:15:06,896 --> 00:15:09,854 I mean, I was in prison for the rest of my life. 181 00:15:11,979 --> 00:15:14,355 There was a lot of people that... 182 00:15:14,355 --> 00:15:16,813 didn't think it was worth the effort, 183 00:15:16,813 --> 00:15:20,271 didn't think Obama would consider it, 184 00:15:20,271 --> 00:15:22,521 it was never gonna happen. 185 00:15:24,063 --> 00:15:26,313 It was a shot in the dark. 186 00:15:42,021 --> 00:15:44,437 I am not a make-up artist, by any means. 187 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:48,979 I had to learn in prison, 188 00:15:48,979 --> 00:15:51,562 making shit up as I went along. 189 00:15:51,562 --> 00:15:54,479 I'm sure there's a bazillion tutorials on YouTube. 190 00:15:57,063 --> 00:15:58,646 There's a disproportionate number 191 00:15:58,646 --> 00:16:00,479 of trans women in the military. 192 00:16:01,313 --> 00:16:02,813 You know? Like something... 193 00:16:02,813 --> 00:16:05,521 Something about, like, our twenties, 194 00:16:05,521 --> 00:16:08,813 and I was, like, running away from, you know... 195 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:13,896 ...this... this weird problem 196 00:16:13,896 --> 00:16:16,271 that, like, we're cross-dressing and stuff. 197 00:16:16,271 --> 00:16:18,854 Like, I was trying to, like, man up and... 198 00:16:18,854 --> 00:16:21,230 I... I think I'm not alone in that. 199 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,105 There's a lot of social pressure, 200 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:26,396 especially for people in, like, the South 201 00:16:26,396 --> 00:16:29,479 and people in the Southwest, and the West. 202 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:31,979 Um... 203 00:16:31,979 --> 00:16:35,396 Yeah, I think there's a pressure to...conform, 204 00:16:35,396 --> 00:16:38,063 and what better conformity environment 205 00:16:38,063 --> 00:16:39,313 than the military? 206 00:16:39,313 --> 00:16:40,938 So... 207 00:16:43,979 --> 00:16:48,271 I saw it as kind of like going cold turkey from, like... 208 00:16:48,271 --> 00:16:49,729 a drug addiction or something, 209 00:16:49,729 --> 00:16:52,146 or, like, trying to quit cigarettes or something. 210 00:16:52,146 --> 00:16:54,646 But, obviously, you can't stop being who you are. 211 00:16:54,646 --> 00:16:58,313 So, that was always... never gonna happen. 212 00:17:00,271 --> 00:17:02,646 And this is a fantastic shade of lipstick. 213 00:17:22,355 --> 00:17:25,146 I could hear the river from... 214 00:17:25,146 --> 00:17:27,230 prison, on a non-windy day. 215 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:29,521 Because there was the Missouri River... 216 00:17:31,146 --> 00:17:32,521 ...right outside the uh... 217 00:17:32,521 --> 00:17:34,479 right outside the prison itself. 218 00:17:34,479 --> 00:17:35,729 Through the tree... 219 00:17:35,729 --> 00:17:37,646 If you go beyond the treeline of the prison, 220 00:17:37,646 --> 00:17:39,604 there's the river...um... 221 00:17:41,146 --> 00:17:43,188 And...so, but... 222 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:45,230 I haven't heard a stream like this. 223 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:47,188 This is just... It's nice. 224 00:17:48,021 --> 00:17:50,230 It's nice to have a stream. 225 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:53,188 It's nice to have leaves, you know? 226 00:17:58,021 --> 00:18:00,271 What story? 227 00:18:00,271 --> 00:18:02,854 Uh... That's a good question. 228 00:18:14,188 --> 00:18:16,105 ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪ 229 00:18:26,063 --> 00:18:29,562 I grew up in a small town: Crescent, Oklahoma. 230 00:18:30,896 --> 00:18:34,313 I had a...complicated relationship with my father. 231 00:18:35,604 --> 00:18:37,146 You know, like, he would just... 232 00:18:37,146 --> 00:18:39,063 take his anger out, from being... 233 00:18:39,979 --> 00:18:42,437 ...angry at work, and just... 234 00:18:48,063 --> 00:18:51,146 My mother, she would drink pretty heavily. 235 00:18:52,562 --> 00:18:54,437 My father drank very heavily. 236 00:18:55,771 --> 00:18:59,771 And they finally split up when I was 13. 237 00:19:04,437 --> 00:19:06,938 My father had a new wife. 238 00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:09,687 She didn't like the fact that I even existed. 239 00:19:11,562 --> 00:19:15,771 She saw that, you know, I was dating boys and... 240 00:19:15,771 --> 00:19:18,521 ...eventually she had me removed from the house... 241 00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:20,604 ...and I was homeless. 242 00:19:27,604 --> 00:19:30,771 All Americans know that the stakes in Iraq are enormous. 243 00:19:30,771 --> 00:19:32,646 On television every night, 244 00:19:32,646 --> 00:19:35,396 you'd see images of the Iraq surge. 245 00:19:36,271 --> 00:19:37,437 It was chaos. 246 00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:40,437 I am saying we must significantly increase... 247 00:19:40,437 --> 00:19:42,604 That realization that I was on thin ice 248 00:19:42,604 --> 00:19:44,562 and that I didn't know who I was, 249 00:19:44,562 --> 00:19:45,979 and that I needed meaning. 250 00:19:45,979 --> 00:19:49,729 I understand the consequence of committing people into war. 251 00:19:52,146 --> 00:19:54,562 So, I enlisted in the Army. 252 00:19:59,479 --> 00:20:01,562 I did it kind of on a whim. 253 00:20:03,687 --> 00:20:06,979 They needed people, I signed the paperwork. 254 00:20:06,979 --> 00:20:09,562 And a few days later, I was in basic training. 255 00:20:21,687 --> 00:20:24,063 Oh, shit! 256 00:20:24,063 --> 00:20:25,938 Where the fuck did you come from? 257 00:20:29,521 --> 00:20:30,729 Shit. 258 00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:48,396 Yep. 259 00:20:51,230 --> 00:20:52,729 What's up? 260 00:21:01,271 --> 00:21:03,938 Lisa just says, "Great photo." 261 00:21:05,729 --> 00:21:08,396 You know, I'm just making sure... 262 00:21:08,396 --> 00:21:11,146 Disconcerting amount of boobage there. 263 00:21:11,146 --> 00:21:14,938 Like, my eye is drawn to it, so I'm just, like... 264 00:21:15,729 --> 00:21:17,646 ...super aware of the fact 265 00:21:17,646 --> 00:21:19,938 that dresses expose a lot more skin 266 00:21:19,938 --> 00:21:21,813 and it's uh... 267 00:21:24,979 --> 00:21:27,562 I don't know if my body movements are trained yet 268 00:21:27,562 --> 00:21:30,437 for this kind of thing. 269 00:21:30,437 --> 00:21:32,896 You're moving around a lot and you're not used to it. 270 00:21:32,896 --> 00:21:35,562 There's always the possibility of, "Oop, there you go." 271 00:21:35,562 --> 00:21:36,979 The whole world could see. 272 00:21:38,437 --> 00:21:40,938 And I had that in prison, too. 273 00:21:40,938 --> 00:21:43,771 You know, I was definitely scrutinized by... 274 00:21:43,771 --> 00:21:46,188 prison staff, you know... 275 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:49,604 inmates, visitors, you know? 276 00:21:49,604 --> 00:21:53,021 Because even though I wore a loose-fitting uniform, 277 00:21:53,021 --> 00:21:55,604 you could tell... you know, they could tell. 278 00:21:55,604 --> 00:21:58,063 And they... I could sense the judgment. 279 00:21:58,063 --> 00:22:00,437 Guards would walk in on me sometimes 280 00:22:00,437 --> 00:22:03,854 while I'm doing... You know, while I was changing my shirt 281 00:22:03,854 --> 00:22:07,771 or, like, taking my bra off or putting it on, or whatever. 282 00:22:07,771 --> 00:22:10,771 So, you know, stuff happened and people would go... 283 00:22:10,771 --> 00:22:14,813 And then there are strip searches, so... 284 00:22:14,813 --> 00:22:17,938 Their reactions could sometimes be... 285 00:22:18,521 --> 00:22:20,437 ...you know... 286 00:22:21,271 --> 00:22:23,146 ...complicated. 287 00:22:23,146 --> 00:22:24,813 Human. 288 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:41,813 I remember it was a really hot and muggy day. 289 00:22:46,188 --> 00:22:49,437 The lawyers advised against coming out 290 00:22:49,437 --> 00:22:51,271 in the middle of a court martial. 291 00:22:51,271 --> 00:22:53,938 They thought it would be misinterpreted 292 00:22:53,938 --> 00:22:56,646 as some kind of stunt or something. 293 00:23:00,562 --> 00:23:03,521 But I came to the conclusion that I needed to just 294 00:23:03,521 --> 00:23:05,188 come out publicly. 295 00:23:12,521 --> 00:23:15,437 As I transition into this next phase of my life, 296 00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:17,687 I want everyone to know the real me. 297 00:23:17,687 --> 00:23:19,771 I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. 298 00:23:21,396 --> 00:23:22,979 I'm confused, Bill. 299 00:23:22,979 --> 00:23:25,271 I don't care if you call him a he or a she. 300 00:23:25,271 --> 00:23:27,854 He's a traitor. She's a traitor. 301 00:23:28,687 --> 00:23:31,105 You had these rumors. 302 00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:34,562 "What does it mean that Manning is really a woman 303 00:23:34,562 --> 00:23:36,105 or is claiming to be a woman?" 304 00:23:36,105 --> 00:23:39,355 "Did she leak the documents because she's transgender?" 305 00:24:39,105 --> 00:24:41,604 This is late January, 2010. 306 00:24:41,604 --> 00:24:45,604 I came back from Iraq, on leave. 307 00:24:46,896 --> 00:24:48,813 And I came to an empty house. 308 00:24:49,729 --> 00:24:52,105 It was...surreal. 309 00:25:00,604 --> 00:25:04,188 I had this sense of disconnect. 310 00:25:05,771 --> 00:25:07,562 People were living normal lives 311 00:25:07,562 --> 00:25:09,771 while we were killing or being killed. 312 00:25:09,771 --> 00:25:11,896 Thank you for calling the New York Times. 313 00:25:11,896 --> 00:25:13,771 ..for calling the Washington Post. 314 00:25:13,771 --> 00:25:15,646 News outlets, they didn't care. 315 00:25:15,646 --> 00:25:18,355 - It wasn't newsworthy to them. 316 00:25:21,021 --> 00:25:22,729 The notion of the Iraq War 317 00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:24,396 has left the consciousness. 318 00:25:28,521 --> 00:25:31,979 I'm trying to do something different. 319 00:25:42,313 --> 00:25:45,479 I have all these documents and I have the data 320 00:25:45,479 --> 00:25:47,854 and I need to do something with it. 321 00:26:18,854 --> 00:26:20,687 We have no reason to doubt 322 00:26:20,687 --> 00:26:23,105 the reliability of these documents. 323 00:26:23,105 --> 00:26:26,437 It is up to a court to decide... 324 00:26:26,437 --> 00:26:30,188 ...clearly, whether something is, in the end, a crime. 325 00:26:30,188 --> 00:26:32,521 That said, prima facie, 326 00:26:32,521 --> 00:26:34,521 there does appear to be 327 00:26:34,521 --> 00:26:36,729 evidence of war crimes in this material. 328 00:26:49,979 --> 00:26:52,396 We also have one individual, 329 00:26:52,396 --> 00:26:55,313 uh...appears to be wounded, trying to crawl away. 330 00:27:04,562 --> 00:27:06,063 Come on, buddy. 331 00:27:07,396 --> 00:27:09,396 All you gotta do is pick up a weapon. 332 00:27:17,938 --> 00:27:19,604 They're taking him! 333 00:27:20,687 --> 00:27:22,854 Bushmaster, Crazy Horse 1-8. 334 00:27:23,604 --> 00:27:25,604 Come on, let us shoot. 335 00:27:25,604 --> 00:27:27,729 This is Bushmaster 7. Go ahead. 336 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,771 Roger, we have a black SUV, uh, Bongo truck 337 00:27:30,771 --> 00:27:32,146 picking up the bodies. 338 00:27:32,146 --> 00:27:34,271 Request permission to engage. 339 00:27:35,813 --> 00:27:37,771 Bushmaster 7. Roger. 340 00:27:37,771 --> 00:27:40,105 This is Bushmaster 7. Roger. Engage. 341 00:27:40,105 --> 00:27:42,604 1-8. Okay. Clear. 342 00:27:42,604 --> 00:27:44,938 - Come on. 343 00:27:46,021 --> 00:27:48,355 - Clear. 344 00:27:49,687 --> 00:27:51,854 - Clear. - We're engaging. 345 00:27:54,854 --> 00:27:56,813 - Come around. Clear. - Roger. 346 00:28:33,396 --> 00:28:36,146 Hacker Adrian Lamo, who turned him in, 347 00:28:36,146 --> 00:28:38,687 says that he contacted the Army 348 00:28:38,687 --> 00:28:42,021 after a series of very intense email exchanges 349 00:28:42,021 --> 00:28:44,355 with the Army specialist in late May. 350 00:28:45,771 --> 00:28:49,646 Adrian Lamo claims that Manning was unhappy 351 00:28:49,646 --> 00:28:51,771 with some policies in the military. 352 00:28:51,771 --> 00:28:54,271 He said that there was an ideology problem, 353 00:28:54,271 --> 00:28:55,729 that he had leaked other information 354 00:28:55,729 --> 00:28:57,771 to the website WikiLeaks. 355 00:29:05,729 --> 00:29:08,687 Now, among the charges, of course, the most serious one 356 00:29:08,687 --> 00:29:12,063 for Private Bradley Manning, that of aiding the enemy. 357 00:29:12,063 --> 00:29:14,021 In a way, it's the sheer scale of it 358 00:29:14,021 --> 00:29:15,188 that's hurt America's image. 359 00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:18,188 That a vast volume of sensitive documents 360 00:29:18,188 --> 00:29:21,021 was so easily available to a private soldier 361 00:29:21,021 --> 00:29:22,396 with some hacking skills. 362 00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:27,896 The United States Of America is on trial today. 363 00:29:27,896 --> 00:29:29,146 Let him go! 364 00:29:29,146 --> 00:29:31,146 Manning stood up as an American soldier, 365 00:29:31,146 --> 00:29:33,105 put himself in harm's way, 366 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:35,146 and he should be free. 367 00:29:59,729 --> 00:30:01,105 No, ma'am. 368 00:31:13,521 --> 00:31:16,021 You've been invisible for so long... 369 00:31:16,021 --> 00:31:18,687 Yeah. - ...people have already... 370 00:31:18,687 --> 00:31:21,105 formed their own opinions of who you are. 371 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:25,979 I feel pressure to correct that and to, like, 372 00:31:25,979 --> 00:31:27,854 clear that up. 373 00:31:31,188 --> 00:31:33,396 I was an unknown before. 374 00:31:43,771 --> 00:31:45,771 It's a little bit nerve-racking. 375 00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:52,355 I'm not... I'm not ashamed of anything. 376 00:31:52,355 --> 00:31:53,896 I'm not ashamed of being trans. 377 00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:55,355 I'm not ashamed of what happened. 378 00:31:55,355 --> 00:31:58,105 Everything happened and, like... 379 00:31:58,105 --> 00:31:59,729 I'm okay with that. 380 00:32:00,896 --> 00:32:02,729 Yeah? And... 381 00:32:05,813 --> 00:32:08,813 The main thing that I had to do was just let go... 382 00:32:08,813 --> 00:32:11,230 of other people's expectations. 383 00:32:12,146 --> 00:32:14,729 And that was tough. 384 00:32:14,729 --> 00:32:17,396 It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do 385 00:32:17,396 --> 00:32:19,313 because I had built my life 386 00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:21,896 around other people's expectations. 387 00:32:23,188 --> 00:32:25,938 And I'm not gonna fucking do that any more. 388 00:32:34,396 --> 00:32:37,979 It does feel a little bit like a calm before a storm. 389 00:32:40,063 --> 00:32:42,562 We know how fragile she is. 390 00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:49,479 What I worry about is that she'll be a big name 391 00:32:49,479 --> 00:32:53,271 and there'll be all this press that'll happen, 392 00:32:53,271 --> 00:32:55,938 and then all of a sudden, it'll be over 393 00:32:55,938 --> 00:32:59,687 and she'll just be out there on her own. 394 00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:04,063 We make these in the wood shop, 395 00:33:04,063 --> 00:33:06,188 but we don't paint ours. 396 00:33:06,188 --> 00:33:07,479 We put oil on ours. 397 00:33:09,771 --> 00:33:12,188 We made Adirondack chairs at the prison. 398 00:33:15,146 --> 00:33:16,854 Yeah. 399 00:33:18,979 --> 00:33:21,687 Oh, it'll be like that for a few weeks, I'm sure. 400 00:33:29,646 --> 00:33:32,063 God, I missed trying to do this. 401 00:34:09,521 --> 00:34:11,979 - I feel old. 402 00:34:11,979 --> 00:34:14,188 - Feel old? - Yeah. 403 00:34:14,188 --> 00:34:16,521 I lost... 404 00:34:16,521 --> 00:34:18,771 I've lost seven years of my life already. 405 00:34:19,562 --> 00:34:20,771 That's unfair. 406 00:34:20,771 --> 00:34:24,021 Last time I walked down these streets, 407 00:34:24,021 --> 00:34:26,271 down the streets of this city, 408 00:34:26,271 --> 00:34:28,355 Lady Gaga had just become big 409 00:34:28,355 --> 00:34:30,896 and the Iraq War was still going on. 410 00:34:34,687 --> 00:34:37,938 It just feels like I've been through a time machine. 411 00:34:37,938 --> 00:34:39,271 Time warp. 412 00:34:47,854 --> 00:34:50,979 An inmate at a military correctional complex... 413 00:34:50,979 --> 00:34:53,396 - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. 414 00:35:17,021 --> 00:35:18,729 Where do you think he got that idea? 415 00:35:33,646 --> 00:35:35,687 All I was trying to get at 416 00:35:35,687 --> 00:35:39,021 was this whole idea of personal responsibility 417 00:35:39,021 --> 00:35:42,604 that you seem to feel, even though, of course, 418 00:35:42,604 --> 00:35:45,188 you...didn't have any... 419 00:35:46,437 --> 00:35:48,146 ...direct... Absolutely. 420 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:50,021 You didn't pull the trigger. 421 00:36:14,063 --> 00:36:15,979 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 422 00:37:20,604 --> 00:37:21,771 It's hard for me now, 423 00:37:21,771 --> 00:37:23,687 just because I know you and love you 424 00:37:23,687 --> 00:37:25,771 and I hate the idea of you being in prison. 425 00:37:25,771 --> 00:37:27,729 And so, for me, it's easy to wonder 426 00:37:27,729 --> 00:37:29,355 if it was worth it. 427 00:37:43,313 --> 00:37:46,813 It was just me and Lisa against the world. 428 00:37:48,188 --> 00:37:51,479 We actually hadn't met before I went to prison. 429 00:37:52,729 --> 00:37:55,021 But she wrote to me, you know, 430 00:37:55,021 --> 00:37:57,896 this really sweet, kind, thoughtful letter. 431 00:38:01,854 --> 00:38:05,230 It'll be the first time I've ever seen her in person. 432 00:38:14,396 --> 00:38:18,063 You know, helping her get released, 433 00:38:18,063 --> 00:38:20,562 it really was sort of like my life's work. 434 00:38:20,562 --> 00:38:22,063 It's really been... 435 00:38:23,230 --> 00:38:26,313 There was a point when we were just trying to keep her alive. 436 00:38:35,271 --> 00:38:37,105 Oh, shit. 437 00:38:44,562 --> 00:38:46,437 Alright? 438 00:38:52,646 --> 00:38:54,896 You look fantastic. 439 00:38:54,896 --> 00:38:57,021 Thanks. 440 00:38:58,729 --> 00:39:01,271 - It's one thing that... - Your pictures... 441 00:39:01,271 --> 00:39:03,813 Your pictures do you justice but, I mean, like, 442 00:39:03,813 --> 00:39:05,230 in real life, wow. 443 00:39:07,687 --> 00:39:09,813 - Look at you. - Look at you. 444 00:39:10,979 --> 00:39:13,687 - How different do I look? 445 00:39:13,687 --> 00:39:16,562 If you do a side-by-side comparison, 446 00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:18,146 you can tell, right? 447 00:39:19,437 --> 00:39:21,604 I don't know if I would say that. 448 00:39:21,604 --> 00:39:22,813 Okay. 449 00:39:22,813 --> 00:39:24,854 You don't look anything like your old picture. 450 00:39:24,854 --> 00:39:26,313 - No. - Not even a little. 451 00:39:27,313 --> 00:39:29,396 And your cheekbones and stuff. 452 00:39:29,396 --> 00:39:31,479 I mean, it's really... It's amazing to me. 453 00:39:31,479 --> 00:39:33,813 I didn't realize that... 454 00:39:33,813 --> 00:39:37,604 that hormones changed that much 455 00:39:37,604 --> 00:39:40,854 of, like...bone structure? 456 00:39:40,854 --> 00:39:43,938 No, it doesn't change the bone structure. 457 00:39:43,938 --> 00:39:46,521 Well, it changed... It changed something. 458 00:39:46,521 --> 00:39:48,687 It changes how the skin, like... 459 00:39:48,687 --> 00:39:52,313 how the skin wraps around the bones a little bit. 460 00:39:52,313 --> 00:39:54,562 Okay. It's just so much different. 461 00:39:55,313 --> 00:39:57,188 - It's really different. - Yeah. 462 00:39:57,188 --> 00:39:58,729 Yeah. 463 00:40:10,562 --> 00:40:12,521 Lisa was everything. 464 00:40:16,355 --> 00:40:17,896 She's family. 465 00:40:38,896 --> 00:40:40,938 Chelsea? 466 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:42,729 Hello? 467 00:40:53,521 --> 00:40:55,313 Um... 468 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:11,938 Shit. 469 00:41:15,687 --> 00:41:18,687 Even I didn't realize how much you were hurting, Chelsea. 470 00:41:18,687 --> 00:41:20,687 Even I didn't know. 471 00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:23,146 You... You... You weren't really telling me. 472 00:41:24,105 --> 00:41:26,604 And... And... I want you to... 473 00:41:31,938 --> 00:41:34,105 Very good at...? 474 00:41:46,604 --> 00:41:49,646 You know, she watched the firework celebration 475 00:41:49,646 --> 00:41:51,979 from her window... 476 00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:54,479 and then she took the shoestrings 477 00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:57,021 that were, you know, on her boots, 478 00:41:57,021 --> 00:41:59,646 attached them to a vent hanging from the ceiling, 479 00:41:59,646 --> 00:42:04,021 put a pillowcase over her head... 480 00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:07,646 bound her hands and her legs, 481 00:42:07,646 --> 00:42:10,813 and then the next thing that she remembers, actually, 482 00:42:10,813 --> 00:42:13,063 is being on the floor. 483 00:42:17,188 --> 00:42:19,396 She was unconscious... 484 00:42:20,521 --> 00:42:22,896 ...and it could have very well worked. 485 00:42:31,938 --> 00:42:34,896 I wouldn't say that I've ever seen Chelsea... 486 00:42:35,646 --> 00:42:37,521 ...be happy. 487 00:42:37,521 --> 00:42:40,979 I've seen her smile, I've seen her laugh. 488 00:42:40,979 --> 00:42:44,313 I've seen her crack jokes. 489 00:42:44,313 --> 00:42:46,687 But, honestly, I don't know that I've ever seen her 490 00:42:46,687 --> 00:42:49,188 be happy. 491 00:42:49,188 --> 00:42:51,063 ♪ contemplative music ♪ 492 00:44:19,854 --> 00:44:22,146 When I was a teenager... 493 00:44:23,146 --> 00:44:25,021 ...I was completely helpless 494 00:44:25,021 --> 00:44:27,604 and I didn't have anybody to protect me, 495 00:44:27,604 --> 00:44:30,854 and I didn't have anybody to tell me that... 496 00:44:30,854 --> 00:44:33,105 it's okay for me to be who I am. 497 00:44:36,188 --> 00:44:39,396 I've built up these defense mechanisms. 498 00:44:40,979 --> 00:44:43,854 I have these walls and... 499 00:44:46,313 --> 00:44:50,146 ...I had to go through hell to get to that point. 500 00:44:58,021 --> 00:44:59,646 I can get through this. 501 00:44:59,646 --> 00:45:01,979 This is just a few weeks of chaos. 502 00:45:08,105 --> 00:45:10,979 Like I said, it'll be a one-hour interview. 503 00:45:10,979 --> 00:45:13,729 They'll pick us up here at 10:30. 504 00:45:13,729 --> 00:45:15,771 - Yeah. We'll bring the outfit. - Exactly. 505 00:45:15,771 --> 00:45:18,188 Bring the outfit, and there'll be hair and make-up. 506 00:45:18,188 --> 00:45:20,313 - Cool. - Yeah. 507 00:45:20,313 --> 00:45:23,021 The main things is... 508 00:45:23,021 --> 00:45:25,854 the decision-making process 509 00:45:25,854 --> 00:45:28,687 in choosing to disclose the documents. 510 00:45:28,687 --> 00:45:32,646 So, let's say that Juju asks you a question. 511 00:45:32,646 --> 00:45:35,313 Um... 512 00:45:35,313 --> 00:45:37,105 So, you'd looked at the documents, 513 00:45:37,105 --> 00:45:38,854 and you made the judgment 514 00:45:38,854 --> 00:45:42,021 that they wouldn't harm any individuals 515 00:45:42,021 --> 00:45:43,687 before you disclosed them? 516 00:45:43,687 --> 00:45:45,896 It's not possible to read every single line 517 00:45:45,896 --> 00:45:47,188 of every single document. 518 00:45:47,188 --> 00:45:49,687 But I knew exactly what was in these documents. 519 00:45:49,687 --> 00:45:51,729 I knew the specific types of information 520 00:45:51,729 --> 00:45:53,063 in these documents. 521 00:45:53,063 --> 00:45:56,979 And I carefully considered it and, no, I don't believe... 522 00:45:56,979 --> 00:45:59,105 I did not believe that any harm would come 523 00:45:59,105 --> 00:46:01,063 from these documents. 524 00:46:03,355 --> 00:46:05,313 Some of these questions are really hard, 525 00:46:05,313 --> 00:46:07,230 so practice helps a little bit 526 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:10,355 in being able to navigate. 527 00:46:10,355 --> 00:46:12,230 I'm not somebody who's going on TV 528 00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:13,979 for the sake of being on TV. 529 00:46:13,979 --> 00:46:17,729 I... I-I-I... There is an underlying... 530 00:46:19,521 --> 00:46:22,979 We're in a moment of history, where this stuff is important 531 00:46:22,979 --> 00:46:25,729 and I don't want to screw it up for somebody else. 532 00:46:42,396 --> 00:46:43,938 One of the things that's nice 533 00:46:43,938 --> 00:46:46,854 is, like, when you have a historical figure like this, 534 00:46:46,854 --> 00:46:48,687 is there is something that's um... 535 00:46:49,938 --> 00:46:52,562 ...that's quite powerful about being so up close. 536 00:46:52,562 --> 00:46:55,188 But there's also something very powerful about seeing 537 00:46:55,188 --> 00:46:57,437 her entire body, like, head to toe. 538 00:46:57,437 --> 00:47:01,271 She's, like...the entire figure is present on this cover. 539 00:47:02,105 --> 00:47:05,771 I love how she just totally... 540 00:47:05,771 --> 00:47:07,771 uh...seems at ease. 541 00:47:07,771 --> 00:47:09,437 I like this one because it has... 542 00:47:09,437 --> 00:47:11,646 It feels to me enormous power, 543 00:47:11,646 --> 00:47:13,230 the kind of power that she must have 544 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:15,105 to be the person she is. 545 00:47:16,938 --> 00:47:19,646 There's something about the atmosphere of that picture, 546 00:47:19,646 --> 00:47:22,479 like, there's a sense of narrative to this one... 547 00:47:22,479 --> 00:47:24,021 Yeah. 548 00:47:24,021 --> 00:47:26,146 There's also, like, some vague suggestion 549 00:47:26,146 --> 00:47:28,896 of, like, an interrogation, or something like that, 550 00:47:28,896 --> 00:47:30,063 sitting in the chair, 551 00:47:30,063 --> 00:47:31,896 in a kind of, like, stripped-down room. 552 00:47:31,896 --> 00:47:33,979 And for her first time, sort of, sitting down 553 00:47:33,979 --> 00:47:36,687 and telling her story, I think that works. 554 00:47:42,146 --> 00:47:44,479 Alright. You ready to go on the record? 555 00:47:44,479 --> 00:47:47,313 About how many weeks into the second deployment 556 00:47:47,313 --> 00:47:50,313 did you get in touch with WikiLeaks? 557 00:47:50,313 --> 00:47:52,854 It was all one deployment, but after, it was... 558 00:47:52,854 --> 00:47:55,813 It was uh... It was during leave... 559 00:47:55,813 --> 00:47:58,146 It was during my leave that I... 560 00:47:58,146 --> 00:48:00,188 that I started using the site. 561 00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:05,271 It was never about being caught. 562 00:48:05,271 --> 00:48:08,562 I...wanted the information out. 563 00:48:09,188 --> 00:48:11,188 Uh... 564 00:48:11,188 --> 00:48:13,437 I was eventually going to go public. 565 00:48:13,437 --> 00:48:15,355 - You were? - Yes. 566 00:48:15,355 --> 00:48:17,521 I just didn't know how to do that. 567 00:48:29,105 --> 00:48:34,021 Yes, I was worried that being trans would be... 568 00:48:34,021 --> 00:48:35,938 would take over everything else. 569 00:48:39,271 --> 00:48:41,021 Right. I was worried it would... 570 00:48:41,021 --> 00:48:42,896 It would be used against me. 571 00:48:45,437 --> 00:48:48,313 I wanted people to know then the things I was seeing. 572 00:49:00,355 --> 00:49:02,938 Life was cheap in Iraq. 573 00:49:08,979 --> 00:49:10,938 And it made me realize 574 00:49:10,938 --> 00:49:14,437 that... how precious life actually is. 575 00:49:17,188 --> 00:49:19,562 How precious everyone's life is. 576 00:49:20,146 --> 00:49:22,063 ♪ tense music ♪ 577 00:50:21,313 --> 00:50:22,521 That's right. 578 00:50:39,813 --> 00:50:44,105 This is a war that resulted in the deaths 579 00:50:44,105 --> 00:50:47,355 of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, 580 00:50:47,355 --> 00:50:50,521 four and a half thousand American soldiers... 581 00:50:58,938 --> 00:51:03,813 It was also a war that we sped into 582 00:51:03,813 --> 00:51:07,562 in no small part because of government secrecy. 583 00:51:08,521 --> 00:51:10,646 How can a nation function 584 00:51:10,646 --> 00:51:12,604 if we don't know what we've done? 585 00:51:46,396 --> 00:51:49,063 And the finale of this war, 586 00:51:49,063 --> 00:51:52,771 that started under cover of secrecy and lies, 587 00:51:52,771 --> 00:51:56,562 ends with the prosecution and court martial 588 00:51:56,562 --> 00:51:59,271 of someone who got the truth out. 589 00:53:24,146 --> 00:53:25,646 Mm. 590 00:53:37,105 --> 00:53:37,979 He was good. 591 00:53:39,188 --> 00:53:40,771 Oh... 592 00:53:40,771 --> 00:53:43,188 So sorry, sweetheart. Um... 593 00:53:43,188 --> 00:53:46,188 Ch-Ch-Chelsea. I'm getting used to it now. 594 00:53:47,063 --> 00:53:48,687 Slowly. 595 00:53:49,437 --> 00:53:51,188 It's tough. Tough. 596 00:53:54,646 --> 00:53:56,396 He was always my baby. 597 00:53:56,396 --> 00:53:58,230 He was always my... 598 00:54:01,063 --> 00:54:02,854 ...Bradley. Hm. 599 00:54:08,479 --> 00:54:11,021 He had the box room, where he slept in. 600 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:14,188 And he had how many computers? 601 00:54:15,146 --> 00:54:17,521 I think it was... one, two, three... 602 00:54:20,646 --> 00:54:22,771 Three computers set up. 603 00:54:23,562 --> 00:54:26,979 And he had this desk chair, 604 00:54:26,979 --> 00:54:28,562 on rollers. 605 00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:35,604 Ah. 606 00:54:35,604 --> 00:54:38,396 And... Oh! And it was locked. 607 00:54:39,188 --> 00:54:40,938 There was a bolt. 608 00:54:40,938 --> 00:54:44,230 I used to say, "That's one room I don't have to clean." 609 00:55:00,355 --> 00:55:01,687 I can't remember. 610 00:55:01,687 --> 00:55:03,521 Quant... Quant-something. 611 00:55:04,896 --> 00:55:07,771 That's it. 612 00:55:07,771 --> 00:55:10,521 It was a cinder block, cinder block, 613 00:55:10,521 --> 00:55:12,771 and just two chairs. 614 00:55:17,271 --> 00:55:20,646 I-I didn't say a lot because... 615 00:55:21,771 --> 00:55:23,562 ...I don't know. 616 00:55:23,562 --> 00:55:25,521 He's, like... 617 00:55:28,813 --> 00:55:31,105 I couldn't touch, couldn't hug. 618 00:55:32,437 --> 00:55:34,646 He was, like... 619 00:55:37,437 --> 00:55:38,521 Oh. 620 00:55:38,521 --> 00:55:42,021 Sorry. But I do love you. 621 00:55:43,646 --> 00:55:45,604 And if I could hug you, 622 00:55:45,604 --> 00:55:48,646 I'd give you the biggest hug you ever had. 623 00:56:02,521 --> 00:56:04,313 It's ten o'clock. 624 00:56:14,479 --> 00:56:16,396 Twitter's quite addictive. 625 00:56:20,188 --> 00:56:23,604 They're seeing me push back from, you know... 626 00:56:23,604 --> 00:56:27,938 In a reasonable way for the first time. 627 00:56:29,854 --> 00:56:32,105 "I don't agree with what Chelsea Manning did. 628 00:56:32,105 --> 00:56:34,230 There are appropriate channels to go through. 629 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:36,355 Our national security is important." 630 00:56:36,355 --> 00:56:39,854 And I just... I responded to that 631 00:56:39,854 --> 00:56:43,396 and said, "Ever actually try those channels?" 632 00:56:43,396 --> 00:56:45,355 And that's it. 633 00:56:45,355 --> 00:56:48,230 And, like, people went nuts after that. 634 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:49,437 So... 635 00:56:50,771 --> 00:56:53,021 "She Will" 636 00:57:51,604 --> 00:57:52,938 ♪ Oh... ♪ 637 00:57:52,938 --> 00:57:55,938 ♪ You've got to get used to it♪ 638 00:57:55,938 --> 00:57:58,271 ♪ And give your heart a little kick ♪ 639 00:57:58,271 --> 00:58:01,355 ♪ She will, she will, she will, she will ♪ 640 00:58:01,355 --> 00:58:04,521 ♪ She will, she will, she will, she will... ♪ 641 00:58:08,771 --> 00:58:11,479 I was trans before I started taking hormones. 642 00:58:14,896 --> 00:58:16,896 I'm the same person as I was. 643 00:58:16,896 --> 00:58:19,854 I just am presenting myself differently. 644 00:58:27,854 --> 00:58:29,604 People don't understand 645 00:58:29,604 --> 00:58:32,687 how young the people are who are in the military. 646 00:58:34,896 --> 00:58:37,313 I'm uniquely situated to have been the person 647 00:58:37,313 --> 00:58:40,771 that probably interacted with Chelsea face to face the most 648 00:58:40,771 --> 00:58:43,729 over the last several years now. 649 00:58:43,729 --> 00:58:46,771 However many years it's been. I don't even know. 650 00:58:46,771 --> 00:58:50,479 And I have my own sense of who she is as a person, right? 651 00:58:50,479 --> 00:58:52,813 It doesn't always line up and match 652 00:58:52,813 --> 00:58:55,146 what the public perception of Chelsea is. 653 00:58:59,063 --> 00:59:02,437 And I think that she's aware 654 00:59:02,437 --> 00:59:06,646 of that journey ahead of her. 655 00:59:06,646 --> 00:59:10,729 And I think she also recognizes that she can't... 656 00:59:10,729 --> 00:59:11,896 You can't really dictate... 657 00:59:11,896 --> 00:59:13,687 She can't dictate for herself 658 00:59:13,687 --> 00:59:16,771 which path that's gonna go, right? 659 00:59:16,771 --> 00:59:19,396 Because she's been prevented for the last ten years 660 00:59:19,396 --> 00:59:21,771 of having the kinds of experiences that we had 661 00:59:21,771 --> 00:59:23,979 that helped shape us. 662 00:59:23,979 --> 00:59:27,396 And then that becomes very overwhelming for people. 663 00:59:27,396 --> 00:59:29,729 But particularly for somebody like Chelsea, 664 00:59:29,729 --> 00:59:31,854 who's still trying to be her. 665 00:59:31,854 --> 00:59:34,437 You know, she's still trying to be who she is. 666 00:59:35,355 --> 00:59:38,771 So as she's finally able to be who she is, 667 00:59:38,771 --> 00:59:41,938 I just can't wait to see what she turns into. 668 00:59:43,771 --> 00:59:46,021 Ahh... 669 00:59:49,146 --> 00:59:51,021 Mm... 670 01:00:06,729 --> 01:00:08,979 You are now an icon to many people 671 01:00:08,979 --> 01:00:11,687 who believe that the government needs to be more transparent, 672 01:00:11,687 --> 01:00:13,479 not just in war but in general. 673 01:00:13,479 --> 01:00:15,021 If someone, 674 01:00:15,021 --> 01:00:16,479 let's say a young programmer, 675 01:00:16,479 --> 01:00:18,063 comes to you 676 01:00:18,063 --> 01:00:21,146 who wants to work for more government transparency, 677 01:00:21,146 --> 01:00:23,938 what would you suggest? 678 01:00:23,938 --> 01:00:26,188 Make your own decisions, make your own choices, 679 01:00:26,188 --> 01:00:28,230 make your own judgment... 680 01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:30,896 Are there specific things that they could do 681 01:00:30,896 --> 01:00:32,562 to further that particular cause? 682 01:00:32,562 --> 01:00:35,230 No. I mean, you have to pay attention. 683 01:00:35,230 --> 01:00:36,687 You have to pay attention. 684 01:00:36,687 --> 01:00:40,938 How did the turmoil that you were going through 685 01:00:40,938 --> 01:00:44,813 in terms of thinking about transitioning... 686 01:00:44,813 --> 01:00:48,105 How did that affect your disclosures later on... 687 01:00:48,105 --> 01:00:50,105 - I don't... - ...as your attorney says? 688 01:00:50,105 --> 01:00:51,479 I don't think it did. You know, 689 01:00:51,479 --> 01:00:54,771 it was this endless, straight, like, you know, like... 690 01:00:54,771 --> 01:00:56,521 They're not connected. 691 01:00:56,521 --> 01:00:57,979 I don't think they're connected. 692 01:00:57,979 --> 01:01:00,188 I see the, like, endless stream 693 01:01:00,188 --> 01:01:02,271 of violence and death and destruction 694 01:01:02,271 --> 01:01:04,479 as being the primary motivator. 695 01:01:04,479 --> 01:01:05,979 Okay. 696 01:01:05,979 --> 01:01:09,687 Now, WikiLeaks, it's gone a whole road since back then. 697 01:01:09,687 --> 01:01:11,938 What did you know about WikiLeaks in 2010? 698 01:01:11,938 --> 01:01:14,146 What did you... It was much more obscure. 699 01:01:14,146 --> 01:01:16,105 Well, I mean... Yeah, it was, it was. 700 01:01:16,105 --> 01:01:18,146 I wasn't really a part of, like, you know... 701 01:01:18,146 --> 01:01:20,188 It was, like... I was, like... 702 01:01:20,188 --> 01:01:22,313 I was running out of time and decisions 703 01:01:22,313 --> 01:01:24,021 and they just had the tools available. 704 01:01:24,021 --> 01:01:25,854 They knew how to use them. That was it. 705 01:01:25,854 --> 01:01:27,313 That's all it boiled own to. 706 01:01:27,313 --> 01:01:29,063 It's like, I... I was running out of time. 707 01:01:29,063 --> 01:01:31,646 - Because you had to go to Iraq. - I had to go back to Iraq. 708 01:01:31,646 --> 01:01:33,021 And, you know... 709 01:01:33,021 --> 01:01:36,771 There was no way I was gonna be able to upload it from Iraq. 710 01:01:36,771 --> 01:01:39,896 You know, it's a policy of newspapers to redact names 711 01:01:39,896 --> 01:01:43,021 to protect the identities of people who might be in danger 712 01:01:43,021 --> 01:01:46,146 and the head of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, 713 01:01:46,146 --> 01:01:48,771 believes in much more complete transparency 714 01:01:48,771 --> 01:01:51,729 and he believes that it would contaminate the evidence, 715 01:01:51,729 --> 01:01:52,979 to use his phrase, 716 01:01:52,979 --> 01:01:54,646 if you did redact those names. 717 01:01:54,646 --> 01:01:57,479 And so he did not, in some cases, 718 01:01:57,479 --> 01:02:01,896 which potentially endangered informants, 719 01:02:01,896 --> 01:02:03,604 particularly in Afghanistan. 720 01:02:03,604 --> 01:02:05,646 We strongly dispute those facts. 721 01:02:05,646 --> 01:02:06,771 Okay. 722 01:02:06,771 --> 01:02:08,479 We strongly dispute those facts. 723 01:02:08,479 --> 01:02:11,979 The government was not able to show any indication of that. 724 01:02:11,979 --> 01:02:14,021 - Yes, yes. - Zero. 725 01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:17,355 Did you not fear sending out these things 726 01:02:17,355 --> 01:02:19,146 that you didn't know what was in them? 727 01:02:19,146 --> 01:02:21,562 I did know. I worked with this information every day. 728 01:02:21,562 --> 01:02:23,604 Did you not fear that it might hurt someone 729 01:02:23,604 --> 01:02:25,854 - if you didn't know exactly... - Absolutely not. 730 01:02:25,854 --> 01:02:27,105 It was historical data. 731 01:02:27,105 --> 01:02:28,896 There's no sources. There's no methods. 732 01:02:28,896 --> 01:02:31,521 There's no intelligence information in here. 733 01:02:31,521 --> 01:02:35,063 It's not there. It's people dying and people getting killed 734 01:02:35,063 --> 01:02:36,896 and people suffering 735 01:02:36,896 --> 01:02:39,271 and on a massive, incredible scale. 736 01:02:42,938 --> 01:02:46,063 As a result... I'm going to skip ahead a little bit... 737 01:02:46,063 --> 01:02:47,437 It must be a difficult position 738 01:02:47,437 --> 01:02:50,854 because you're an important public figure for many people 739 01:02:50,854 --> 01:02:52,479 and yet I can understand 740 01:02:52,479 --> 01:02:55,313 how you want to just get on with a new life as well 741 01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:57,063 and these things keep coming back. 742 01:02:57,063 --> 01:02:59,063 How do you deal with that? 743 01:03:02,813 --> 01:03:04,271 I don't know. 744 01:03:05,813 --> 01:03:07,896 I haven't figured that out yet. 745 01:05:22,687 --> 01:05:25,271 How did you survive in solitary confinement? 746 01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:33,896 I just remember, you know, whenever I was in Kuwait, 747 01:05:33,896 --> 01:05:36,063 that I died. 748 01:05:37,896 --> 01:05:39,896 I was alive but I was dead. 749 01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:44,979 And I've been dead ever since. 750 01:05:44,979 --> 01:05:46,979 Sort of... If that makes any sense. 751 01:05:49,813 --> 01:05:53,063 Like, somehow I'm, like, in this visceral, like, purgatory 752 01:05:53,063 --> 01:05:57,105 between...the two. 753 01:05:57,896 --> 01:06:00,271 And that time. 754 01:06:00,271 --> 01:06:02,437 And then I wake up for a while. 755 01:06:05,021 --> 01:06:07,230 I just want to forget it ever happened. 756 01:06:13,854 --> 01:06:15,562 I just want to not be reminded 757 01:06:15,562 --> 01:06:17,479 that it ever happened to me ever. 758 01:06:20,355 --> 01:06:23,355 I think that the moments that I've enjoyed, 759 01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,813 you know, in the years since, 760 01:06:25,813 --> 01:06:28,604 have been whenever I've completely forgotten. 761 01:06:43,521 --> 01:06:46,437 People want me to relive it and I can't. 762 01:06:52,771 --> 01:06:56,230 I'm just trying to find some closure 763 01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:57,979 and some peace to all this. 764 01:07:00,521 --> 01:07:03,437 I live in a state of, you know, uncertainty 765 01:07:03,437 --> 01:07:06,105 and I feel like every step I take 766 01:07:06,105 --> 01:07:08,979 is a step on thin ice. 767 01:07:08,979 --> 01:07:10,604 I mean, I'm just, you know, 768 01:07:10,604 --> 01:07:13,646 I'm just another one of us that's scared. 769 01:07:13,646 --> 01:07:16,479 You know. I just... I find myself backed in a corner 770 01:07:16,479 --> 01:07:18,146 and there's no other way to go 771 01:07:18,146 --> 01:07:19,979 other than to fight back 772 01:07:19,979 --> 01:07:23,521 and I'm certainly not going to wait for somebody to save me. 773 01:07:26,063 --> 01:07:28,146 Or save any of us. 774 01:07:29,687 --> 01:07:32,646 I'm certainly not going to wait for anybody to save any of us 775 01:07:32,646 --> 01:07:36,854 because, chances are... nobody's coming. 776 01:07:40,521 --> 01:07:42,687 Go ahead. 777 01:07:50,521 --> 01:07:54,562 These are not the people that made our country great. 778 01:07:54,562 --> 01:07:56,604 But we're gonna make it great again. 779 01:07:58,437 --> 01:08:01,687 These are the people that are destroying our country. 780 01:08:04,188 --> 01:08:05,479 The Trump administration's ban 781 01:08:05,479 --> 01:08:06,896 on military service 782 01:08:06,896 --> 01:08:08,188 by transgender people 783 01:08:08,188 --> 01:08:09,813 was announced via Tweet. 784 01:08:09,813 --> 01:08:12,146 What happens to transgender service members now? 785 01:08:12,146 --> 01:08:14,437 Are they immediately thrown out of the military? 786 01:08:49,188 --> 01:08:51,396 - Hey. 787 01:08:51,396 --> 01:08:53,313 - How are ya? - I'm doing okay. 788 01:08:53,313 --> 01:08:57,313 I just wanted to check in 'cause I know I've been super busy. 789 01:08:57,313 --> 01:08:59,771 Yeah. It's nice to hear your voice. 790 01:08:59,771 --> 01:09:01,604 It's like everything's just falling apart 791 01:09:01,604 --> 01:09:03,646 and getting worse and becoming a disaster again. 792 01:09:03,646 --> 01:09:05,896 - Mm-hm. - My safe is coming. 793 01:09:05,896 --> 01:09:09,437 And my surveillance cameras are... I have them installed. 794 01:09:09,437 --> 01:09:11,105 I just need to wire them. 795 01:09:11,105 --> 01:09:12,979 Good. You do what needs to be done. 796 01:09:12,979 --> 01:09:14,105 Yeah. 797 01:09:15,562 --> 01:09:17,271 As soon as I started to see... 798 01:09:17,271 --> 01:09:18,646 As soon as Charlottesville happened, 799 01:09:18,646 --> 01:09:20,938 I was, like, I need security. 800 01:09:27,437 --> 01:09:30,521 For the last six months, the alt-right, 801 01:09:30,521 --> 01:09:32,687 they've been, like, mobilized, 802 01:09:32,687 --> 01:09:37,729 and emboldened by the fact that, 803 01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:39,646 you know, they have an administration 804 01:09:39,646 --> 01:09:41,854 that appears to be favorable to them. 805 01:09:49,729 --> 01:09:52,562 Can you explain what we're doing? 806 01:09:56,271 --> 01:09:58,562 For somebody like me, like a trans person, 807 01:09:58,562 --> 01:10:01,271 or somebody who's black or brown in this country, 808 01:10:01,271 --> 01:10:04,938 or Jewish in this country... this is an existential threat. 809 01:10:04,938 --> 01:10:09,188 You know, today it might not be an existential threat. 810 01:10:09,188 --> 01:10:12,313 But five years from now, it's an absolute existential threat. 811 01:10:17,938 --> 01:10:20,729 We can be afraid to say something sometimes. 812 01:10:20,729 --> 01:10:24,646 And I'm not as afraid any more as I used to be 813 01:10:24,646 --> 01:10:27,021 of saying the thing that needs to be said. 814 01:10:29,437 --> 01:10:31,313 What are they gonna do? 815 01:10:31,313 --> 01:10:33,521 Throw me in prison? 816 01:10:34,313 --> 01:10:36,355 Or kill me? 817 01:10:36,355 --> 01:10:38,521 They're gonna do that anyway. 818 01:10:38,521 --> 01:10:41,813 If we let them, you know... 819 01:10:41,813 --> 01:10:45,938 If we let them take the reins of our society. 820 01:10:45,938 --> 01:10:48,437 You know, like, they're gonna do that anyway. 821 01:10:49,271 --> 01:10:52,521 So I'd rather go down fighting. 822 01:10:54,687 --> 01:10:56,687 ♪ dramatic instrumental music ♪ 823 01:11:05,313 --> 01:11:06,562 Here I am. 824 01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:08,729 - Chelsea! - Whoo! 825 01:11:11,188 --> 01:11:13,437 I was told not to come here by numerous people. 826 01:11:13,437 --> 01:11:14,896 Fuck 'em! - Yeah. 827 01:11:14,896 --> 01:11:17,396 For so long, I wasn't able to even be seen 828 01:11:17,396 --> 01:11:18,729 or be out on the streets. 829 01:11:18,729 --> 01:11:20,646 I've been in prison for seven years. 830 01:11:20,646 --> 01:11:23,396 It was being silenced that made me so afraid and so... 831 01:11:23,396 --> 01:11:24,521 You're a hero! 832 01:11:27,896 --> 01:11:31,355 When I first got out, I did not think I was gonna be 833 01:11:31,355 --> 01:11:33,562 jumping straight back into activism. 834 01:11:34,771 --> 01:11:36,562 I feel embattled. 835 01:11:38,646 --> 01:11:41,271 I've seen what an occupied country is. 836 01:11:41,271 --> 01:11:44,313 And I've seen what local suppression looks like. 837 01:11:45,355 --> 01:11:47,521 And I'm seeing all of this right here 838 01:11:47,521 --> 01:11:51,271 in a place that I want to call home. 839 01:12:04,687 --> 01:12:06,854 - Good? Good? - Yes. 840 01:12:06,854 --> 01:12:08,604 Good? Good? 841 01:12:08,604 --> 01:12:10,604 - Consensus. - Consensus. 842 01:12:10,604 --> 01:12:12,230 Tweet. 843 01:12:12,230 --> 01:12:13,437 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 844 01:12:17,355 --> 01:12:19,313 We need to stop expecting 845 01:12:19,313 --> 01:12:22,521 that our systems will somehow fix themselves. 846 01:12:22,521 --> 01:12:26,479 We need to actually take the reins of power from them. 847 01:12:27,396 --> 01:12:29,687 We need to fix this. 848 01:12:29,687 --> 01:12:31,813 USA! USA! 849 01:12:31,813 --> 01:12:34,021 Damn right we got this. 850 01:12:36,938 --> 01:12:38,146 Whistle-blower Chelsea Manning 851 01:12:38,146 --> 01:12:40,146 surprised the political world this week 852 01:12:40,146 --> 01:12:42,854 by announcing she was running for the US Senate. 853 01:12:44,146 --> 01:12:47,604 Manning is challenging Democratic incumbent Ben Cardin 854 01:12:47,604 --> 01:12:49,604 in the upcoming June primaries. 855 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,646 You are on the air. Go ahead, please. 856 01:12:52,646 --> 01:12:53,813 My question is, so, Chelsea, 857 01:12:53,813 --> 01:12:55,854 you had some suicide attempts in prison. 858 01:12:55,854 --> 01:12:57,854 For someone who's had those kind of issues, 859 01:12:57,854 --> 01:12:59,813 what makes you the candidate 860 01:12:59,813 --> 01:13:02,146 to represent the people of Maryland? 861 01:13:02,146 --> 01:13:04,271 Are you suggesting that someone 862 01:13:04,271 --> 01:13:06,313 who has suffered from clinical depression 863 01:13:06,313 --> 01:13:08,188 is not qualified to run for office? 864 01:13:08,188 --> 01:13:09,230 No, that's not what I'm suggesting. 865 01:13:09,230 --> 01:13:10,313 Okay. 866 01:13:10,313 --> 01:13:12,437 He's asking, are you mentally stable now 867 01:13:12,437 --> 01:13:15,646 given all the horrific...? I think that's what he's asking. 868 01:13:15,646 --> 01:13:17,562 Given discussions about the President 869 01:13:17,562 --> 01:13:19,896 and his mental stability, 870 01:13:19,896 --> 01:13:21,771 I think that should be something 871 01:13:21,771 --> 01:13:23,729 we ask about all candidates. 872 01:13:23,729 --> 01:13:25,313 I strongly disagree. 873 01:13:25,313 --> 01:13:27,687 You know, we shouldn't be stigmatizing anybody 874 01:13:27,687 --> 01:13:29,313 for any mental health issues. 875 01:13:29,313 --> 01:13:30,854 You know. But um... 876 01:13:30,854 --> 01:13:34,521 Like, I'm more than willing to admit I'm in therapy. 877 01:13:34,521 --> 01:13:36,813 As a senator, would you release confidential information 878 01:13:36,813 --> 01:13:38,979 that was being held by Senate panel? 879 01:13:38,979 --> 01:13:42,646 No, but I would certainly move to push for as much transparency 880 01:13:42,646 --> 01:13:45,105 in government as possible. 881 01:13:45,105 --> 01:13:47,105 You're challenging the Democratic incumbent 882 01:13:47,105 --> 01:13:48,562 in the primary. 883 01:13:48,562 --> 01:13:50,938 Your platform includes closing prisons, 884 01:13:50,938 --> 01:13:53,313 free college, universal healthcare... 885 01:13:58,230 --> 01:14:00,562 Hi, I'm Chelsea Manning. I'm running for US Senate. 886 01:14:00,562 --> 01:14:02,729 And I get asked this a lot by reporters, you know. 887 01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:04,813 "Why are you running for Senate?" 888 01:14:04,813 --> 01:14:07,979 If you look around and you look at everything that's going on, 889 01:14:07,979 --> 01:14:09,854 whether it's the immigration debate, 890 01:14:09,854 --> 01:14:13,188 healthcare or police, police brutality, 891 01:14:13,188 --> 01:14:14,562 and mass surveillance... 892 01:14:14,562 --> 01:14:16,813 Like, why the hell wouldn't I be running? 893 01:14:16,813 --> 01:14:18,437 You know, in this environment, 894 01:14:18,437 --> 01:14:21,396 in this toxic environment that we live in, 895 01:14:21,396 --> 01:14:23,105 where's our say? 896 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,021 We're just trying to excite people. 897 01:14:32,021 --> 01:14:33,479 And... And... 898 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,437 Yeah, we know it's an uphill battle. 899 01:14:35,437 --> 01:14:37,687 We know... 900 01:14:37,687 --> 01:14:40,854 words like "Cinderella story", 901 01:14:40,854 --> 01:14:43,355 "long shot", "underdog", 902 01:14:43,355 --> 01:14:45,313 words like that are going to be applied. 903 01:14:46,437 --> 01:14:47,813 Is it stressful? Oh, yeah. 904 01:14:47,813 --> 01:14:49,938 This is very stressful. 905 01:14:49,938 --> 01:14:53,938 But we also know that 906 01:14:53,938 --> 01:14:55,771 at the end of it all 907 01:14:55,771 --> 01:14:58,813 we're going to be so happy that we tried. 908 01:14:58,813 --> 01:15:01,021 Changing the world isn't easy. 909 01:15:01,021 --> 01:15:03,687 It's not. I mean... 910 01:15:03,687 --> 01:15:05,854 Chelsea knows. 911 01:15:35,230 --> 01:15:37,313 If you're an intelligence analyst, 912 01:15:37,313 --> 01:15:39,896 you really have to understand your opponent. 913 01:15:41,938 --> 01:15:44,146 And you have to think like your opponent. 914 01:15:45,813 --> 01:15:48,687 A certain amount of empathy is a requirement 915 01:15:48,687 --> 01:15:50,646 to being effective. 916 01:16:00,313 --> 01:16:02,813 Whenever I've protested 917 01:16:02,813 --> 01:16:05,230 against the alt-right, 918 01:16:05,230 --> 01:16:08,021 I realized that Cassandra Fairbanks 919 01:16:08,021 --> 01:16:09,604 was there. 920 01:16:09,604 --> 01:16:12,521 She was a supporter in my campaign 921 01:16:12,521 --> 01:16:14,396 to get me out of prison. 922 01:16:19,687 --> 01:16:21,854 I decided to use that connection 923 01:16:21,854 --> 01:16:24,646 to try to see what information we could glean 924 01:16:24,646 --> 01:16:28,063 from that particular flavor of the alt-right. 925 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,396 It's called rapport-building in intelligence work. 926 01:16:35,854 --> 01:16:38,896 I didn't really know what the fuck I was getting myself into. 927 01:16:41,813 --> 01:16:43,896 I finally hit the jackpot. 928 01:16:44,854 --> 01:16:47,813 She invited me to an event. 929 01:16:47,813 --> 01:16:51,813 All of alt-right Twitter in the same fucking room. 930 01:16:52,687 --> 01:16:55,604 USA! USA! 931 01:16:56,562 --> 01:16:58,729 Manning... 932 01:16:58,729 --> 01:17:00,771 We're never coming down. 933 01:17:00,771 --> 01:17:02,687 We took America back. 934 01:17:02,687 --> 01:17:04,687 America's ours now. 935 01:17:04,687 --> 01:17:06,105 We're never coming down. 936 01:17:06,105 --> 01:17:07,854 - Never! - Never! 937 01:17:07,854 --> 01:17:09,562 - Never coming down. 938 01:17:09,562 --> 01:17:11,562 - We're never coming down. - We're coming to get you 939 01:17:11,562 --> 01:17:12,896 if you try and take our firearms! 940 01:17:12,896 --> 01:17:14,105 America's back! 941 01:17:14,105 --> 01:17:16,729 - That's what's up! - You piece of filth! 942 01:18:18,521 --> 01:18:20,771 Everybody keeps getting mad at me. 943 01:18:20,771 --> 01:18:22,938 Every time I open my phone, people are mad at me. 944 01:18:22,938 --> 01:18:25,646 Every time they fucking talk to me, I have to break shit up. 945 01:18:25,646 --> 01:18:26,938 They're fucking... 946 01:18:26,938 --> 01:18:29,979 And guess what, they're gonna counter-attack for months, okay? 947 01:18:29,979 --> 01:18:31,146 Every time we do something, 948 01:18:31,146 --> 01:18:32,646 they're going to fucking respond. 949 01:18:32,646 --> 01:18:33,813 - Shh. - We're not going to. 950 01:18:33,813 --> 01:18:35,230 Chelsea, I'm not mad. 951 01:18:35,230 --> 01:18:37,313 - I'm not mad. - Yeah, you are. 952 01:18:37,313 --> 01:18:39,604 You might not think you're mad but you're mad. 953 01:18:39,604 --> 01:18:41,854 Do you realize, this is like a scene in the movie 954 01:18:41,854 --> 01:18:43,396 when all the good guys realize 955 01:18:43,396 --> 01:18:45,230 that the enemies are manipulating them 956 01:18:45,230 --> 01:18:46,771 and dividing them against each other. 957 01:18:46,771 --> 01:18:48,355 We are a roomful of allies. 958 01:18:48,355 --> 01:18:51,021 We're all on the same team in here and we're fighting. 959 01:18:58,562 --> 01:19:01,021 - This is old fucking news. - Okay. 960 01:19:02,271 --> 01:19:04,521 Seven days old now. 961 01:19:05,562 --> 01:19:07,271 I'm tired of fucking hearing about this. 962 01:19:07,271 --> 01:19:09,813 I am too. We all are. 963 01:19:09,813 --> 01:19:12,355 This is driving us into the fucking ground. 964 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,021 We've said so much to your supporters, 965 01:19:16,021 --> 01:19:17,687 so much to people who were upset. 966 01:19:17,687 --> 01:19:19,521 We can't say any more to smooth it over. 967 01:19:19,521 --> 01:19:21,604 Nothing we say will change anyone's minds. 968 01:19:21,604 --> 01:19:24,230 No matter what we do, people's minds are set. 969 01:19:32,146 --> 01:19:34,271 This week was fucking traumatic. 970 01:19:34,271 --> 01:19:36,313 And I am over it. I'm so over it. 971 01:19:36,938 --> 01:19:38,063 You don't fucking... 972 01:19:38,063 --> 01:19:40,313 You don't do that. You don't play their game. 973 01:19:40,313 --> 01:19:42,271 Yeah, don't play their game. Thank you. 974 01:19:43,854 --> 01:19:46,063 I messed this up. 975 01:19:48,437 --> 01:19:50,396 ♪ brooding violin music ♪ 976 01:20:28,938 --> 01:20:31,313 I knew I'd fucked up. 977 01:20:31,313 --> 01:20:35,271 I immediately knew that it was indefensible. 978 01:20:37,396 --> 01:20:38,854 It was wrong. 979 01:20:58,355 --> 01:21:00,313 I don't know what people are expecting out of me. 980 01:21:00,313 --> 01:21:02,938 I mean, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 981 01:21:02,938 --> 01:21:04,896 I just got out of prison. 982 01:21:09,105 --> 01:21:11,146 You know. And here we are. 983 01:21:11,146 --> 01:21:13,230 We're right next to Quantico, by the way. 984 01:21:13,230 --> 01:21:15,021 Where we are. 985 01:21:15,021 --> 01:21:17,105 So... About a mile and a half 986 01:21:17,105 --> 01:21:19,979 from where I was held in solitary confinement. 987 01:21:37,313 --> 01:21:40,854 I was never gonna be a... a mouthpiece. 988 01:21:44,355 --> 01:21:46,521 I'm not a hero. 989 01:21:52,188 --> 01:21:54,188 I'm just somebody who... 990 01:21:56,813 --> 01:21:59,188 ...you know... 991 01:21:59,188 --> 01:22:01,355 I've always been somebody 992 01:22:01,355 --> 01:22:03,687 willing to, like, jump in and do something. 993 01:22:09,521 --> 01:22:12,063 I've spoken through other family members to her 994 01:22:12,063 --> 01:22:14,105 but it's very difficult to reach her. 995 01:22:21,230 --> 01:22:23,479 You know, and she's not well. 996 01:22:25,188 --> 01:22:27,396 She had a stroke. Yeah. 997 01:22:30,146 --> 01:22:31,604 I try to not get them involved 998 01:22:31,604 --> 01:22:33,813 in all the craziness that happens around me. 999 01:22:38,021 --> 01:22:41,063 I heard from my father but... we don't talk much. 1000 01:22:47,063 --> 01:22:48,979 Our... 1001 01:22:51,396 --> 01:22:54,479 Our positions on life are so divergent 1002 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,105 that I don't know if we can reconcile. 1003 01:22:58,313 --> 01:23:00,355 I don't know if we can reconcile. 1004 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,313 He cared less about me being gay. 1005 01:23:07,437 --> 01:23:11,687 I think he's kind of in denial about my trans-ness. 1006 01:23:15,063 --> 01:23:16,521 I think... 1007 01:23:19,188 --> 01:23:20,979 I think... 1008 01:23:25,105 --> 01:23:27,105 I think he doesn't know who I am. 1009 01:24:35,437 --> 01:24:37,355 Suspicions undoubtedly have been raised 1010 01:24:37,355 --> 01:24:40,188 that this happened to Chelsea Manning. 1011 01:24:40,188 --> 01:24:41,938 The police raid her home with guns drawn 1012 01:24:41,938 --> 01:24:43,896 in this so-called "Wellness Check". 1013 01:24:45,188 --> 01:24:47,021 She's a candidate for the US Senate 1014 01:24:47,021 --> 01:24:48,604 who is known for participating 1015 01:24:48,604 --> 01:24:50,562 in political protests. 1016 01:25:21,521 --> 01:25:23,396 Come on, Janice. 1017 01:25:27,562 --> 01:25:29,562 Hey, I have the final statement 1018 01:25:29,562 --> 01:25:31,729 if you want me to read it. 1019 01:25:31,729 --> 01:25:33,063 Uh-huh. 1020 01:25:34,355 --> 01:25:36,813 "Last year, when I was released from prison, 1021 01:25:36,813 --> 01:25:39,437 I emerged into a world of hate and injustice. 1022 01:25:41,271 --> 01:25:42,687 I wondered if I should spend 1023 01:25:42,687 --> 01:25:44,437 my first year of freedom recovering. 1024 01:25:45,271 --> 01:25:48,271 But I couldn't sit still. 1025 01:25:48,271 --> 01:25:50,646 I tried to use my platform as a public figure 1026 01:25:50,646 --> 01:25:52,021 to send a message. 1027 01:25:52,021 --> 01:25:54,021 Every one of us has power. 1028 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,938 Over the past several months it has become clear 1029 01:25:57,938 --> 01:26:00,604 that my experiences have taken an enormous toll 1030 01:26:00,604 --> 01:26:02,771 on my physical and emotional health. 1031 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,146 I stepped back from campaigning 1032 01:26:06,146 --> 01:26:08,146 to prioritize my own well-being. 1033 01:26:10,437 --> 01:26:13,271 I found the space and the treatment I need to heal. 1034 01:26:14,313 --> 01:26:15,771 I'm not giving up. 1035 01:26:15,771 --> 01:26:18,188 I'm grateful for everyone who believes in me. 1036 01:26:19,105 --> 01:26:21,604 Together we got this." 1037 01:26:21,604 --> 01:26:23,896 - Does that sound good? 1038 01:26:26,188 --> 01:26:28,396 Chelsea? 1039 01:26:45,313 --> 01:26:48,063 It's harder to do the right thing 1040 01:26:48,063 --> 01:26:50,979 than it is to go within the process. 1041 01:26:53,146 --> 01:26:56,188 And so I think everybody has to make their own call 1042 01:26:56,188 --> 01:26:58,230 as to what they're willing to do. 1043 01:27:03,146 --> 01:27:07,188 Being trans, being queer as a kid... 1044 01:27:09,854 --> 01:27:11,437 ...being unwanted 1045 01:27:11,437 --> 01:27:13,313 and being unloved... 1046 01:27:13,313 --> 01:27:16,521 being not cared about... 1047 01:27:18,396 --> 01:27:20,938 ...I've always felt a close connection 1048 01:27:20,938 --> 01:27:24,188 with the people who are hurting the most. 1049 01:27:26,562 --> 01:27:28,146 If I wasn't exposed to that, 1050 01:27:28,146 --> 01:27:30,355 maybe I could ignore it or not see it. 1051 01:27:30,355 --> 01:27:31,938 But I can't. 1052 01:28:06,896 --> 01:28:08,938 I think Chelsea will always be 1053 01:28:08,938 --> 01:28:10,813 looking over her shoulder... 1054 01:28:10,813 --> 01:28:12,230 ♪ foreboding music ♪ 1055 01:28:13,105 --> 01:28:15,105 ...for the rest of her life. 1056 01:28:18,938 --> 01:28:20,437 In this country, once you've been marked 1057 01:28:20,437 --> 01:28:21,896 as an enemy of the state, 1058 01:28:21,896 --> 01:28:24,687 I think you'll always be an enemy of the state 1059 01:28:24,687 --> 01:28:26,771 and you'll always have to worry 1060 01:28:26,771 --> 01:28:29,479 that they'll find some other reason. 1061 01:28:34,437 --> 01:28:39,021 There is this sense of impending doom 1062 01:28:39,021 --> 01:28:42,313 that just never dissipates and never goes away. 1063 01:28:51,604 --> 01:28:53,646 Chelsea Manning is back behind bars 1064 01:28:53,646 --> 01:28:55,437 after refusing to testify 1065 01:28:55,437 --> 01:28:58,521 in an investigation into WikiLeaks. 1066 01:28:58,521 --> 01:29:01,437 Manning can be held for a maximum of 18 months 1067 01:29:01,437 --> 01:29:02,979 for refusing to testify. 1068 01:29:02,979 --> 01:29:05,063 Her attorney says they'll likely appeal. 1069 01:29:05,063 --> 01:29:09,063 As everybody knows, Chelsea has tremendous courage. 1070 01:29:09,063 --> 01:29:12,146 Our primary concern at this point is her health 1071 01:29:12,146 --> 01:29:13,979 - while she is confined. 1072 01:29:13,979 --> 01:29:17,355 Julian Assange's arrest in London on Thursday, 1073 01:29:17,355 --> 01:29:20,813 inside Ecuador's embassy, was done by British police 1074 01:29:20,813 --> 01:29:24,146 under a warrant from the United States for extradition. 1075 01:29:24,146 --> 01:29:27,146 This is the charge that he faces. Conspiracy. 1076 01:29:27,146 --> 01:29:29,729 Specifically related to hacking a government computer 1077 01:29:29,729 --> 01:29:32,313 and his relationship to Chelsea Manning. 1078 01:29:37,271 --> 01:29:39,146 It was a perjury trap. 1079 01:29:39,146 --> 01:29:40,729 Oh, it is a perjury trap. 1080 01:29:40,729 --> 01:29:44,313 How do you think she's holding up? Do you have any idea? 1081 01:29:44,313 --> 01:29:47,896 I'm worried and I think other people are worried about her. 1082 01:29:48,854 --> 01:29:51,521 I'm really concerned now about the... 1083 01:29:51,521 --> 01:29:54,729 that they're holding her in solitary. 1084 01:29:54,729 --> 01:29:57,021 The grand jury can go for what? About 18 months. 1085 01:29:57,021 --> 01:29:58,938 And then they can start all over again. 1086 01:29:58,938 --> 01:30:01,521 - They could. - They can go forever. 1087 01:30:01,521 --> 01:30:03,938 She's gonna have to do something to... 1088 01:30:03,938 --> 01:30:07,521 motivate herself to go through this. 1089 01:30:07,521 --> 01:30:09,146 ♪ tense music ♪ 1090 01:30:30,146 --> 01:30:32,230 It's never gonna stop. 1091 01:30:32,230 --> 01:30:34,146 They're not gonna stop. 1092 01:30:36,063 --> 01:30:38,771 It's not gonna stop until we stop them. 1093 01:30:40,896 --> 01:30:42,938 "Deep Space Probe" 1094 01:30:55,979 --> 01:30:59,938 ♪ I used to be silent ♪ 1095 01:30:59,938 --> 01:31:02,771 ♪ Now I am ready ♪ 1096 01:31:02,771 --> 01:31:05,562 ♪ To let it all ♪ 1097 01:31:06,938 --> 01:31:10,646 ♪ Let it all out ♪ 1098 01:31:12,521 --> 01:31:15,521 ♪ There's a sadness in me ♪ 1099 01:31:16,604 --> 01:31:19,479 ♪ I cannot control ♪ 1100 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,771 ♪ I let it all ♪ 1101 01:31:23,771 --> 01:31:27,105 ♪ Let it all out ♪ 1102 01:31:29,562 --> 01:31:31,437 ♪ Out on the streets ♪ 1103 01:31:33,646 --> 01:31:36,938 ♪ On the stupid and the weak ♪ 1104 01:31:38,771 --> 01:31:40,771 ♪ You can hold me now ♪ 1105 01:31:42,687 --> 01:31:44,521 ♪ You can hold me now ♪ 1106 01:31:44,521 --> 01:31:48,479 ♪ Let it all ♪ 1107 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,854 ♪ Let it all ♪