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First, cast the beam out
of thine own eye
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and then the mote from mine.
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Jesus takes off his shirt.
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And lets others speak.
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He kneels before the first one,
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washing his dusty feet
with his shirt.
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I am not the Jesus
of the official Church,
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who the police, bankers,
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judges, hangmen, officers,
church bosses, politicians,
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and other powerful people, tolerate.
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I am not your superstar.
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Shut up so that you can hear
what I'm saying.
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Come up here, bigmouth!
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I am not a great speaker,
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but maybe some of you seek Christ.
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But I don't think this is Him.
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Because Christ was tolerant,
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and if someone contradicted Him,
He would not tell them to shut up.
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No, He didn't say shut up!
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He took a whip
and smacked their ugly faces!
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That's what He did,
you stupid pig!
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And if only one of you
wants to hear me,
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he has to wait until
this fucking scum has left!
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If I may quote:
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"Thou shalt recognize them
by their works."
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That's what counts.
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Munich, 3 Elisabeth street
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How do you do, Mr. Herzog?
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Herr von der Recke, I hope you are
prepared for this invasion.
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Oh yes, we are.
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You do know that this apartment
has a very special meaning for me.
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As a 13-year-old schoolboy,
I used to live here
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with my mother
and my two brothers.
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This was a small, rather shabby
boarding house,
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now restored, of course.
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That was in the '50s?
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I was just 13, and
the odd thing about it was
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that I lived here with
Klaus Kinski for three months.
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With Kinski?
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It was a chain of coincidences.
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The owner of the boarding house,
Klara Rieth,
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an elderly lady about 65
with wildly-dyed orange hair
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had a soft spot for starving artists
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as she herself had come
from a family of artists.
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and Kinski had been living nearby
in an attic, without furniture,
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just bare beams, and he had covered
everything knee-high with dead leaves,
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and posed as a starving artist
and walked around stark-naked.
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Naked?
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Yes. When the postman rang,
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Kinski rustled through his leaves,
stark-naked, and signed.
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And where was that?
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Somewhere nearby.
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Yeah, but he wore clothes,
I hope, when he lived here?
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Yes, but from the very first moment,
he terrorized everyone.
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There were eight parties living here.
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He locked himself
into the bathroom.
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The bath over there?
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Wasn't there a door?
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Yes, there used to be a door
that led to the bathroom.
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- May we?
- Yes, please go ahead.
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This room to the left was bigger.
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Yes. We enlarged the bathroom here.
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That's where we used to live,
my mother and the three boys.
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The four of us
in just one single room.
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There were bunks.
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We were rather poor,
and my mother tried somehow
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to take part in the economic
miracle, but got left behind.
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And this bath here was smaller, of course,
because our room reached up to here.
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And Kinski had locked himself
in this bathroom
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for two days and two nights,
for 49 hours.
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And in his fits of maniacal fury,
he smashed everything to smithereens.
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The bathtub, the toilet bowl,
everything.
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You could sift it
through a tennis racket.
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But it was really incredible.
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I never thought it was possible
that someone could rave for 49 hours.
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They called the police in the end,
but they left him in peace.
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He was put up here,
in a tiny staff room.
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- May I?
- Yes, please, go ahead.
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It was completely different then.
There was a long corridor.
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And here there were
one, two, three small rooms.
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Yes.
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And here must have been
a wall and an entrance.
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The corridor went along here.
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And this here was Kinski's room.
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There was only room for a bed
and a small night table.
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And that was his window
looking onto the backyard.
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And one day, Kinski must have taken a huge
running start down the entire corridor.
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While we were eating, I heard a strange noise,
and then, like an explosion,
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the whole door came flying off its hinges,
and crashed into the room.
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Well he must have
jumped against it full speed,
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and now he stood there,
flailing wildly,
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completely hysterical,
snow-white in his face.
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He was foaming at the mouth,
and he moved like this.
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And the something came
floating down like leaves...
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They were his shirts.
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And his screams
were incredibly shrill.
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Well he could actually break
wine glasses with his voice.
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And he screamed two octaves
too high, he screamed,
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"Klara! Klara'. You pig!"
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The thing was, that she hadn't ironed
his shirt collars neatly enough.
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Klara had him living here for free,
fed him, and did his laundry.
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One day a theatre critic
had been invited for dinner,
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and he hinted at having watched
a play in which Kinski had a small roll.
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He would mention him
as outstanding and extraordinary.
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And at once, Kinski threw two hot potatoes
and the cutlery into his face, in a flash,
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and he jumped up and screamed,
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"I was not excellent!
I was not extraordinary!
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"I was monumental!
I was epochal!"
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Guess all this made a very
deep impression on me then,
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and that I would work with him later
and make five feature films with him,
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You would never have thought that.
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No, that was never
on my horizon at the time.
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It was beyond
my furthest thoughts.
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Was he a trained actor at the time he lived here?
Did he ever have any training?
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He was self-taught.
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At times, you could hear him
in his closet, for 10 hours non-stop,
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doing his voice
and speaking exercises.
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It was absolutely incredible.
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He always pretended to be a genius
who had fallen straight from heaven
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and who had obtained his gift
by the grace of God.
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In reality, it was incredible how much
he practiced and trained himself.
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At that time,
during his poetry recitals,
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he still had this totally artificial
theatre intonation of the '50s,
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a kind of a snorting snarl.
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He mastered it to perfection.
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And this is where I lived with him,
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and so knew what to expect
if I was to work with him.
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In quicklime,
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in saltpeter, blazing phosphorous,
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in the urine of a donkey in heat,
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in snakes' poison, old hags' spittle,
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in dog shit,
and in foul bath-water,
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in wolf's milk, gall of oxen,
and flooded latrines.
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In this juice,
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thou shalt stew the slanderers.
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In a tomcat's brain
who ceased to fish,
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in the foam that dribbles
from the teeth of rabid dogs,
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mixed with monkey's piss,
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in bristles from a hedgehog torn,
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in a rain barrel where vermin crawl,
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perished rats and the festering slime
of toad-stools,
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glowing at night
in horses' snot and in hot goo.
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In this juice,
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shall the slanderers stew...
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Peru, the train tracks along
the Urubamba River...
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Kinski's and my river of destiny,
so to speak.
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I wanted to retrace
some of our steps.
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The first film we did together was
"Aguirre, the Wrath of God", which started here.
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It was my sixth film,
and I was 28 at the time.
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I had sent Kinski my screenplay,
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and two nights later, at 3:00 a.m.,
I was awakened by the phone.
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At first, I couldn't figure out
what was going on.
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All I heard were inarticulate screams
at the other end of the line.
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It was Kinski.
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After about half an hour,
I could somewhat filter out from his screams,
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that he was ecstatic
about the screenplay
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and wanted to be Aguirre.
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Right from the beginning
of the shooting of "Aguirre,"
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there were two pressing problems.
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One was the budget.
AGUIRRE, THE WRATH OF GOD
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Today, it seems inconceivable
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that we made the film
with as little as $370,000.
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No one was interested
in financing it, and what's more,
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later on, no one even wanted
to see the film for years.
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Kinski was the next problem.
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At the time, he had just
cut short a Jesus tour.
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He had appeared in huge arenas,
in the Deutschlandhalle in Berlin,
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and the audience merely
wanted to watch him rave.
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And he was laughed at, had terrible fits,
and raved and screamed,
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and arrived here at our location
as a derided, misunderstood Jesus.
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He had wholly identified with this role
and continued to live on in it.
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Quite often, it was difficult to talk to him,
because he answered back like Jesus.
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In his earlier phase,
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you could sometimes watch him
in similar self-stylizations.
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As François Villon,
the poor, vagrant poet.
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Then as Dostoyevsky's idiot,
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and later in his life, as Paganini.
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What is more, he had been
fascinated by the screenplay,
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which had a different beginning
from the finished film.
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In the script,
there was a scene on a glacier
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where at an altitude of 17,000 feet,
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a huge procession of tottering,
altitude-sick pigs advances towards you.
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Only later would you realize
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that this was part of a huge
Spanish army of adventurers,
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accompanied by 800 or a 1,000
Indian auxiliaries.
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All this was cut from the script.
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Nevertheless, and although I had
tried hard to dissuade him from it,
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Kinski had arrived with half a ton
of alpine equipment, and expedition gear.
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He brought tents, down sleeping bags,
crampons, and ice axes,
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and badly wanted to
expose himself to wild nature,
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He had some rather
insipid ideas about nature.
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Mosquitos were not allowed in his jungle,
and rain was not allowed either.
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After establishing him in his tent
around here, under that tree,
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it started to rain,
and he got wet.
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So, he immediately had one of his
raving fits during the first night.
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The next day, we built a roof
of palm leaves above his tent.
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But even there he felt discomforted, and screaming
he moved into the hotel of Machu Picchu.
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At the time, there was only
one hotel with eight rooms.
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There was nothing far or wide.
There was nothing here either,
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except for a single hut
where I used to sleep.
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A woman lived there.
She was a native Indian woman.
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A hunch-backed dwarf
with nine children.
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She also had 100 or 150 guinea pigs,
which were there to eat.
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But at night they crawled all over me,
and that was uncomfortable.
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So, I moved in with the Indians.
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We had 450 Indians from the highlands,
from the altitude of 15,000 feet,
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who stayed in this big barn.
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You have to imagine,
that in a radius of about 100 miles,
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no possibility of finding shelter existed.
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And I slept in there with them.
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And the last two days before shooting
started were rather chaotic.
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I tried to establish some order,
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and worked straight
through two days and nights.
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And finally, before going to sleep at dawn,
for one hour, I told them,
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"Please wake me up
when you take off in the train."
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But they forgot.
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I had been forgotten,
and suddenly, in a white-hot panic,
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I realized the train was taking off.
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And I was fully dressed,
apart from my shoes,
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and ran after the departing train,
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about 200 yards barefoot,
across broken stone.
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And with bleeding feet,
I barely reached a step and got on.
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And that was perhaps the most important
shooting day I had in my life.
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When I finally arrived up here,
there was a dense fog.
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Everything was clouded over,
and it was pouring rain.
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You could only see as far as
100 feet at the most.
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The mountain back there was
completely enshrouded in cloud.
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You couldn't see anything
except gray clouds.
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And there was indescribable chaos.
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On top of that, there was
a big problem with Kinski.
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It was twofold in nature.
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First of all, Kinski realized he would
only be a dot in the landscape,
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and not the center of attention.
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He wanted to act in close-up
to pass very near the camera,
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with a grim face,
leading the entire army.
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I tried to get across to him that he wasn't yet
the leader of this expedition,
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for that was Pizarro, Gonzalo Pizarro.
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And it was very difficult,
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because Kinski simply was not
the center of attention in this scene.
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Secondly, our concept of landscape
differed profoundly.
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He wanted the shot to embrace all of scenic
Machu Picchu, including the peak,
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just like a Hollywood-style movie,
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with the landscape
as a beautiful backdrop,
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which is exploited for the scene.
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Commercials work that way.
Postcards look like that.
246
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But I wanted an ecstatic detail
of that landscape,
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where all the drama, all the passion,
all human pathos became visible.
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He just didn't understand this,
but for me, this was something crucial.
249
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This is to say, a landscape
with almost human qualities.
250
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Kinski finally rose
to the utmost platitude,
251
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that the only fascinating landscape
on this earth was the human face.
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After that,
I removed him from this shot.
253
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I also had the feeling
that this scene without any faces
254
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would stick in the spectators' minds
for a long time.
255
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And Kinski raved about
my being a megalomaniac.
256
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And I answered him back,
"That makes two of us!"
257
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And finally, towards 11 o'clock in the morning,
everything opened up,
258
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and here, on the right-hand side,
very strangely, the clouds stayed put,
259
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and to the left, like a miracle,
they parted,
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and then the file of people
came down here.
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And while we were shooting,
I had a very profound feeling,
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as if the grace of God
was with this film and with me.
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As if I were witnessing
something extraordinary,
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which I would never see again.
265
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And I can perhaps say, that on this day
I definitely came to know my own destiny.
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2,000 feet below Machu Picchu,
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the Urubamba flows
around the Inka Site
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and the rocky peak nearby.
269
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During the dry season,
the boulders are in the open,
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but the water can
rise rapidly here by 40 feet.
271
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And this is what this same place
looks like at high water.
272
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It seemed to me like a metaphor
for our turbulent relationship.
273
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If you want someone to be agitated,
let him be agitated!
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Fucking shoot!
275
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Let's shoot this shit!
276
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The camera won't roll now.
277
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It's an insult!
278
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You have to beg me!
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Even David Lean did that,
and Brecht, too.
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You will do it as well, my dear!
281
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- I will not.
- We shall see!
282
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- I will not do it.
- We shall see!
283
00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:38,126
I couldn't care less
what Brecht and David Lean did.
284
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What was the reason
for inflicting this on myself?
285
00:21:50,418 --> 00:21:53,793
At age 15, I had seen Kinski
in the anti-war film
286
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"Children, Mothers and a General."
287
00:21:56,501 --> 00:22:00,626
He played a lieutenant
who leads schoolboys to the front.
288
00:22:03,251 --> 00:22:06,168
Maximilian Schell also plays
a small part.
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He falls in love
and wants to desert.
290
00:22:09,210 --> 00:22:12,376
Kinski will have him shot for that
the next morning.
291
00:22:12,585 --> 00:22:15,751
Don't be afraid.
I haven't seen a girl in three years.
292
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Hey, you! Go away!
293
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The bastard.
294
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Are you coming?
I will wait outside, okay?
295
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Do me this favor, please.
296
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The mothers of the boys
and the soldiers
297
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go to sleep for a few hours.
298
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Kinski's awakened at daybreak,
299
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and the way he wakes up
will forever stay in my memory.
300
00:22:46,001 --> 00:22:47,293
Yes, we have to leave.
301
00:22:47,501 --> 00:22:51,418
This one moment, repeated here,
impressed me so profoundly
302
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that later, it was a decisive factor
in my professional life.
303
00:23:03,335 --> 00:23:05,001
Yes, we have to leave.
304
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Let's go, people!
305
00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:11,001
Now!
306
00:23:11,793 --> 00:23:15,668
Strange how memory
can magnify something like that.
307
00:23:15,876 --> 00:23:20,001
The following scene, where he orders
Maximilian Schell to be shot,
308
00:23:20,251 --> 00:23:23,043
seems much more
impressive to me today.
309
00:23:27,335 --> 00:23:29,001
Now!
310
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Will he be shot?
311
00:23:36,501 --> 00:23:38,960
It's outrageous, you can't do this!
312
00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,710
You have to listen to him, at least.
313
00:23:42,126 --> 00:23:43,251
We beg you.
314
00:23:44,293 --> 00:23:48,960
But it's murder!
It can't be decided like that!
315
00:23:49,168 --> 00:23:50,668
Lately, it can.
316
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Go on!
317
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Lima, the airport.
318
00:24:05,335 --> 00:24:09,085
On the traces of the past,
I met Justo Gonzalez,
319
00:24:09,293 --> 00:24:13,293
who works here as a tourist guide
and has been waiting for me.
320
00:24:14,085 --> 00:24:18,126
He was one of the Spanish soldiers
from Aguirre's expedition.
321
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:21,960
We hadn't seen each other
for more than 25 years.
322
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[Spanish]
323
00:24:31,626 --> 00:24:35,793
February, 22.
We are suffering terrible hardship.
324
00:24:36,501 --> 00:24:39,710
Most of the men have fever
and hallucinate.
325
00:24:40,251 --> 00:24:42,626
Hardly anybody can still stand.
326
00:24:43,418 --> 00:24:47,835
Justo Gonzales drank my ink,
thinking it was medicine.
327
00:24:49,126 --> 00:24:53,376
I can't write any more.
We are drifting in circles.
328
00:25:06,835 --> 00:25:09,293
And here, at the left of the picture,
329
00:25:09,501 --> 00:25:15,918
Justo Gonzalez, then, in the role of a
Spanish adventurer, exhausted by fever.
330
00:25:38,876 --> 00:25:40,501
In all scenes of the movie,
331
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Kinski had
an intense aggressiveness,
332
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being at the same time
cold-blooded and calculating.
333
00:25:47,751 --> 00:25:50,168
But in private,
he seemed to be afraid of the jungle.
334
00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:52,793
He carried a rifle everywhere he went.
335
00:25:56,126 --> 00:25:59,835
In one of the scenes, we attacked
an Indian village, which we burnt down,
336
00:26:00,043 --> 00:26:03,710
and Kinski assaulted the extras who were
distracted by the food they found.
337
00:26:06,543 --> 00:26:09,876
He flailed wildly at us
and hit my head with his sword.
338
00:26:10,835 --> 00:26:13,585
Luckily, my iron helmet protected me.
339
00:26:13,793 --> 00:26:16,793
And he hit so hard, he left a deep dent,
340
00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:20,251
so deep that I suffered
a considerable wound on my head.
341
00:26:28,626 --> 00:26:31,835
I didn't lose consciousness,
but suffered massive bleeding.
342
00:26:32,835 --> 00:26:35,210
[Spanish]
343
00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:38,626
And without your helmet,
what would have happened?
344
00:26:38,918 --> 00:26:41,001
Without my helmet,
he could have killed me.
345
00:26:41,501 --> 00:26:43,043
He would have split my skull.
346
00:26:44,126 --> 00:26:46,751
He was precise
in aiming at my helmet,
347
00:26:47,168 --> 00:26:52,835
but at the same time, he was always
impulsive, aggressive, out of control.
348
00:26:53,043 --> 00:26:56,460
[Spanish]
349
00:26:59,543 --> 00:27:00,918
And afterwards?
350
00:27:02,043 --> 00:27:06,585
Afterwards, this scar remained.
It's still visible today.
351
00:27:14,626 --> 00:27:16,793
[Spanish]
352
00:27:17,001 --> 00:27:20,626
That same night, after shooting,
we extras were relaxing.
353
00:27:21,126 --> 00:27:22,918
We drank a little and played cards.
354
00:27:23,835 --> 00:27:26,793
Klaus Kinski became irate
and aggressive over this.
355
00:27:27,335 --> 00:27:30,126
Apparently, he wanted to show
that he was a tough guy,
356
00:27:30,793 --> 00:27:34,085
and with his Winchester,
he shot three bullets into our hut.
357
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:38,835
We were 45 men crammed together
in there, and he wounded one of us.
358
00:27:42,626 --> 00:27:44,293
He shot off his fingertip.
359
00:27:45,793 --> 00:27:47,210
There was so much blood
360
00:27:47,418 --> 00:27:50,626
that I was afraid at first that the man
had been hit in the body,
361
00:27:51,418 --> 00:27:53,251
but it was only the middle finger.
362
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:55,335
The extra's name was Araos.
363
00:27:55,543 --> 00:27:59,460
[Spanish]
364
00:27:59,668 --> 00:28:01,710
The trajectory of the bullets,
365
00:28:01,918 --> 00:28:05,585
did they penetrate the thatched roof
diagonally from above
366
00:28:05,793 --> 00:28:07,501
and from there into the floor?
367
00:28:08,168 --> 00:28:10,751
No, he shot straight
through the wall.
368
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,960
[Spanish]
369
00:28:12,168 --> 00:28:13,501
He hated everybody.
370
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:18,918
He was impulsive,
unpredictable, half-mad.
371
00:28:19,126 --> 00:28:21,043
He was not quite normal.
372
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,710
Aggressive.
He had a diabolical character.
373
00:28:26,918 --> 00:28:28,626
He always went around armed.
374
00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:33,960
[Spanish]
375
00:28:34,168 --> 00:28:35,793
One day, you threatened
him with death.
376
00:28:36,001 --> 00:28:38,001
You couldn't take it any longer,
377
00:28:38,418 --> 00:28:42,793
when he wanted to walk out before the
end of shooting, in the middle of work.
378
00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:45,543
A lot of scenes were still missing.
379
00:28:46,543 --> 00:28:49,710
And how many sacrifices
had we made?
380
00:28:50,126 --> 00:28:52,751
[Spanish]
381
00:28:57,710 --> 00:29:01,793
A few days journey from Machu Picchu,
down the Urubamba river.
382
00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:07,418
Here, at this narrow point,
at the rapids of the Pongo de Mainique,
383
00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:10,126
we shot parts of "Fitzcarraldo".
384
00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:15,626
During the dry season,
with the water at its lowest level,
385
00:29:15,835 --> 00:29:17,793
this is quite harmless.
386
00:29:38,543 --> 00:29:43,543
Kinski was a peculiar mixture of
physical cowardice and physical courage.
387
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:49,418
Sometimes, when there was merely a wasp nearby,
he screamed for his mosquito net,
388
00:29:49,626 --> 00:29:52,001
and for a doctor ready with a syringe.
389
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,960
But I shall never forget one moment,
and that was here in the Pongo,
390
00:29:57,168 --> 00:29:59,251
almost exactly at this point.
391
00:29:59,835 --> 00:30:02,876
We had managed to drag
our huge ship up to here,
392
00:30:03,085 --> 00:30:05,710
inch by inch,
against the current.
393
00:30:06,168 --> 00:30:10,293
You have to imagine that
the water rises 30 feet higher here,
394
00:30:10,585 --> 00:30:12,835
and then all hell breaks loose.
395
00:30:13,585 --> 00:30:18,376
Both to the right and to the left,
we had fastened thick steel cables to the rock,
396
00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:22,335
so that the boat was able
to pull itself up with the winches.
397
00:30:26,168 --> 00:30:28,085
All that took about 11 days,
398
00:30:28,335 --> 00:30:31,751
just to pull the boat
half a mile into these rapids.
399
00:30:32,126 --> 00:30:34,710
And then something
unexpected happened.
400
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:37,210
The water rose another 6 feet,
401
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:42,835
and the 14 steel cables that held the boat,
each with a diameter of 3 inches,
402
00:30:43,043 --> 00:30:45,543
were torn up with a single jerk.
403
00:30:49,126 --> 00:30:51,460
That was good.
Watch out.
404
00:30:51,626 --> 00:30:53,126
Good timing.
405
00:30:59,335 --> 00:31:03,876
The boat at once lurched crosswise
in the river and started capsizing,
406
00:31:04,085 --> 00:31:07,293
and it lay almost
horizontally in the water.
407
00:31:07,501 --> 00:31:11,793
And the bizarre thing was,
that there was a pregnant woman on board,
408
00:31:12,001 --> 00:31:14,418
the cook's wife, and the cook himself.
409
00:31:14,626 --> 00:31:17,251
And he, in mortal fear,
looking for something vertical,
410
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:20,168
jumped on half a pig,
that was dangling there,
411
00:31:20,376 --> 00:31:23,585
and clutched it and
went swinging on this pig.
412
00:31:23,835 --> 00:31:27,460
Later on, he had to endure
some jokes about this, of course.
413
00:31:29,126 --> 00:31:31,168
Kinski knew about this incident.
414
00:31:31,376 --> 00:31:34,668
We did some shooting here,
without any crew on board,
415
00:31:34,876 --> 00:31:38,293
and the boat was hurled
into the rocks with such an impact
416
00:31:38,501 --> 00:31:42,918
that the keel, the whole front part,
was wrapped around itself
417
00:31:43,126 --> 00:31:47,085
like the lid of a sardine tin
that is coiled up.
418
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:50,710
The anchor had penetrated
the thick metal wall.
419
00:31:52,251 --> 00:31:55,293
And everyone knew it,
including Kinski.
420
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:02,001
I then thought we should perhaps shoot with a
couple of cameras on board. and a few people.
421
00:32:02,918 --> 00:32:06,710
We had six volunteers,
and suddenly Kinski said,
422
00:32:06,918 --> 00:32:09,918
"If you go on board,
I'm coming with you.
423
00:32:10,418 --> 00:32:13,126
"If you sink, I shall sink, too."
424
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:36,293
Look, you can stop it again...
425
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:42,876
At the beginning.
426
00:32:43,043 --> 00:32:45,543
This is a real gramophone needle?
427
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:49,126
No, that's a normal sewing needle.
428
00:32:52,335 --> 00:32:55,710
It's not playing any music.
429
00:33:01,418 --> 00:33:03,043
- Paul.
- Yes?
430
00:33:03,543 --> 00:33:05,210
- Good luck.
- Okay.
431
00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:07,251
- Take care.
- You too.
432
00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:10,376
If you fall off, I'll catch you.
433
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,918
What happened?
434
00:33:16,043 --> 00:33:17,418
Pongo!
435
00:33:17,585 --> 00:33:19,751
We're drifting through the Pongo!
436
00:33:30,251 --> 00:33:34,085
While we were shooting,
one of the impacts was so violent
437
00:33:34,293 --> 00:33:37,751
that I remember seeing the lens
shoot out of the camera.
438
00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:45,460
It flew off, and the cameraman,
Thomas Mauch and I, I tried holding him.
439
00:33:45,626 --> 00:33:49,043
He flew 25 or 30 feet
through the air with me.
440
00:33:50,001 --> 00:33:52,585
And the camera weighs about 40 pounds.
441
00:33:52,835 --> 00:33:54,501
He held it on his shoulder.
442
00:33:54,751 --> 00:34:00,085
It hit the deck so hard that his hand
was split apart between these two fingers.
443
00:34:02,293 --> 00:34:03,876
What a pity, Klaus...
444
00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:08,085
What a pity, Klaus, that you ran away
before the boat struck.
445
00:34:08,251 --> 00:34:13,085
But that was the idea!
I'm not an idiot!
446
00:34:13,251 --> 00:34:19,876
This lens here flew off.
447
00:34:20,043 --> 00:34:23,293
That was the idea!
448
00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:29,418
The rock came even closer.
449
00:34:29,585 --> 00:34:32,460
I ran back screaming,
"The engine!"
450
00:34:32,626 --> 00:34:34,460
Then came the impact,
and you flew.
451
00:34:34,626 --> 00:34:36,126
Perfect timing.
452
00:34:57,626 --> 00:35:03,501
There were moments, too, when Kinski
instinctively knew that he went too far.
453
00:35:04,293 --> 00:35:08,376
And in moments like that,
he was a coward, thank God.
454
00:35:10,626 --> 00:35:13,418
There was an incident
at Rio Nanay,
455
00:35:13,626 --> 00:35:16,835
that was in the last phase
of the shooting of "Aguirre".
456
00:35:18,293 --> 00:35:20,668
As so often,
he didn't know his lines,
457
00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:25,376
and in a situation like this,
he would always look for a victim.
458
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,501
And suddenly, he screamed like mad,
"You pig!",
459
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,543
meaning the assistant cameraman.
460
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:32,876
"He grinned!"
461
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:35,668
And I was supposed
to fire him at once.
462
00:35:35,876 --> 00:35:39,251
And I said, no, of course
I will not fire him,
463
00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:42,710
or else the whole team
would leave with him in solidarity.
464
00:35:44,001 --> 00:35:48,126
And he suddenly packed his things
in absolute dead earnest,
465
00:35:48,418 --> 00:35:53,585
resolved to go and leave our location,
and he packed everything in a speedboat.
466
00:35:53,793 --> 00:35:57,876
And I knew he had broken
30, 40, 50 contracts before this.
467
00:35:58,251 --> 00:36:01,043
Only shortly before
he had broken up a tour.
468
00:36:01,251 --> 00:36:06,918
He had brought theatre engagements to ruin before,
and I knew now he's leaving for good.
469
00:36:08,168 --> 00:36:12,918
And I went up to him, very composed.
By the way, I was not armed.
470
00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:16,876
Later on, he tried to change
things around to save face.
471
00:36:18,501 --> 00:36:22,043
I went up to him and I said,
"You can't do this.
472
00:36:22,251 --> 00:36:25,710
"The movie is more important
than our personal emotions,
473
00:36:25,918 --> 00:36:29,001
"and even more important
than our persons,
474
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:30,960
"and this can't be permitted.
475
00:36:31,126 --> 00:36:33,835
"This simply will not be."
476
00:36:34,585 --> 00:36:36,918
And he said,
"No, I'm leaving now".
477
00:36:37,585 --> 00:36:40,835
And I told him I had a rifle,
not on me,
478
00:36:41,043 --> 00:36:43,960
but by the time he reached
the next bend in the river,
479
00:36:44,168 --> 00:36:46,501
there would be eight bullets in his head,
480
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:49,043
and the ninth one would be mine.
481
00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:55,835
And he had enough instinct to know
that this wasn't a joke anymore.
482
00:36:56,460 --> 00:37:00,126
And then he screamed
for the police like a madman.
483
00:37:01,251 --> 00:37:06,001
However, the next police station
was at least 300 miles away.
484
00:37:06,335 --> 00:37:08,668
Later, it was circulated in the press
485
00:37:08,876 --> 00:37:13,001
that I directed him from
behind the camera with a loaded rifle.
486
00:37:13,418 --> 00:37:15,293
Of course, this wasn't true,
487
00:37:15,501 --> 00:37:18,960
but he was very docile
during the last days of shooting,
488
00:37:19,168 --> 00:37:20,960
and very, very disciplined.
489
00:37:21,168 --> 00:37:24,210
Somehow the beast
had been domesticated after all,
490
00:37:24,418 --> 00:37:29,751
and had been pressed into shape,
so that his true madness, his true energy
491
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,668
was contained within
the frame of a screen image.
492
00:37:35,293 --> 00:37:39,126
And I thank his cowardice,
and his instincts,
493
00:37:39,335 --> 00:37:42,001
for a magnificent ending
of "Aguirre."
494
00:37:49,793 --> 00:37:52,418
When we reach the sea,
495
00:37:52,585 --> 00:37:55,168
we'll build a bigger boat,
496
00:37:55,335 --> 00:38:01,543
and we'll sail north and take Trinidad
away from the Spanish Crown.
497
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:14,418
From there, we'll go on
and take Mexico from Cortez.
498
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:18,876
What a great betrayal that will be.
499
00:38:19,835 --> 00:38:23,626
We will then control
all of New Spain,
500
00:38:23,793 --> 00:38:31,210
and we will stage history
as others stage plays.
501
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:52,043
I, the Wrath of God,
502
00:38:52,210 --> 00:38:56,251
will marry my own daughter,
503
00:38:56,460 --> 00:39:00,626
and with her
found the purest dynasty
504
00:39:00,793 --> 00:39:03,626
ever known to man.
505
00:39:03,793 --> 00:39:06,168
Together,
506
00:39:06,335 --> 00:39:10,460
we will rule
the whole of this continent.
507
00:39:17,418 --> 00:39:19,501
We will endure.
508
00:39:21,335 --> 00:39:24,418
I am the Wrath of God.
509
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:28,418
Who else is with me?
510
00:39:37,751 --> 00:39:39,043
I was with him.
511
00:39:39,251 --> 00:39:42,418
Kinski and I complemented
each other in a strange way.
512
00:39:42,626 --> 00:39:46,376
I think he needed me
just as much as I needed him.
513
00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:49,126
Only in public,
he could never admit it.
514
00:39:49,376 --> 00:39:51,210
It bothered him very, very much.
515
00:39:51,418 --> 00:39:56,210
And in his autobiography, which is,
of course, to a high degree fictitious,
516
00:39:56,418 --> 00:39:59,043
he describes me, our relationship.
517
00:39:59,251 --> 00:40:01,210
I shall read some of it.
518
00:40:05,251 --> 00:40:10,085
He speaks of Herzog's "derangement,
insolence, impudence, brutality,
519
00:40:10,293 --> 00:40:15,043
dimwittedness, megalomania,
lack of talent," it goes on like that.
520
00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:19,460
And he continuous, "Any further
elaboration would be a waste of time."
521
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:24,126
Nevertheless, page after page,
he comes back to me,
522
00:40:24,335 --> 00:40:27,043
almost like an obsessive compulsion.
523
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:32,585
This book, in some parts of it, in some passages,
I kind of had a hand in them.
524
00:40:32,793 --> 00:40:36,793
I helped him to invent
particularly vile expletives.
525
00:40:37,293 --> 00:40:39,918
He lived near here,
a little higher up,
526
00:40:40,126 --> 00:40:41,793
and we often walked along here.
527
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,460
Sometimes we sat
on a wooden bench,
528
00:40:44,668 --> 00:40:47,585
at a wooden table,
looking over the landscape,
529
00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,918
or we sat by this tree,
musing, and he said,
530
00:40:51,126 --> 00:40:56,835
"Werner, nobody will read this book
if I don't write very bad stuff about you.
531
00:40:57,585 --> 00:41:01,751
"If I wrote that we get along very well
together, nobody would buy it.
532
00:41:02,085 --> 00:41:06,085
"The scum only wants to hear
about the dirt all the time."
533
00:41:06,751 --> 00:41:11,793
And I came with a dictionary and
we tried to find even fouler expressions.
534
00:41:12,126 --> 00:41:15,751
He did use some of them,
and we often laughed about it.
535
00:41:16,126 --> 00:41:20,876
And yet, a lot of these outbreaks
of hatred were certainly authentic.
536
00:41:21,293 --> 00:41:23,376
And this applies to both of us.
537
00:41:24,168 --> 00:41:27,085
Nevertheless,
we worked together again.
538
00:42:02,085 --> 00:42:05,835
"Woyzeck" was shot
in the small Czech town of Telč.
539
00:42:06,293 --> 00:42:10,293
Eva Mattes was Kinski's partner,
in the role of Marie.
540
00:42:11,043 --> 00:42:16,043
She was one of the very few women
who had anything good to say about Kinski.
541
00:42:19,751 --> 00:42:23,085
There, under those arches,
we shot quite a lot.
542
00:42:23,668 --> 00:42:25,793
And on the square out there, too.
543
00:42:31,168 --> 00:42:36,376
At the time, Kinski had arrived
quite exhausted from the shooting of "Nosferatu."
544
00:42:36,751 --> 00:42:39,126
We had only five days in between.
545
00:42:39,668 --> 00:42:41,710
He was able to grow some stubbles,
546
00:42:41,918 --> 00:42:46,418
and he was in a peculiar, fragile,
and sensitive mood.
547
00:42:47,543 --> 00:42:51,210
How would you describe him?
He was different with you.
548
00:42:58,085 --> 00:43:03,626
Well yes, that kind of exhaustion can
stimulate you to reach rare heights.
549
00:43:04,585 --> 00:43:07,043
And he was a very professional actor,
550
00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:09,460
the most professional
I have ever known.
551
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,918
And he certainly exploited this,
this fragility you just mentioned just now,
552
00:43:14,585 --> 00:43:17,126
which is almost like
a gift for Woyzeck,
553
00:43:17,335 --> 00:43:20,585
if you bring it with you
in such a moment of exhaustion.
554
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:25,210
I respected him totally,
but it was mutual.
555
00:43:26,251 --> 00:43:29,543
And of course, I was anxiously
looking forward to working with him,
556
00:43:29,751 --> 00:43:32,126
because I knew him
to be a mad actor.
557
00:43:34,251 --> 00:43:38,376
And I got to know him as
a powerhouse you just had to plug into.
558
00:43:42,335 --> 00:43:44,626
Do you know how long
it has been, Marie?
559
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,168
Two years this Whitsuntide.
560
00:43:50,043 --> 00:43:52,626
And do you know how long it will be?
561
00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:58,251
I have to go and prepare supper.
562
00:43:59,585 --> 00:44:02,376
- You two were not merely actors.
- That's right.
563
00:44:02,585 --> 00:44:05,793
- It was more.
- Yes, but what can I say?
564
00:44:06,626 --> 00:44:10,543
There was a strong intuition.
He was a terribly intuitive actor.
565
00:44:10,751 --> 00:44:12,210
And I am the same.
566
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:17,043
There is a scene in "Woyzeck"
where Woyzeck says to Marie,
567
00:44:17,626 --> 00:44:20,335
"You have such a beautiful mouth
and no blister on it."
568
00:44:20,543 --> 00:44:26,960
And the next day, after we had shot that scene,
I had a white blister in the middle of my lip.
569
00:44:27,168 --> 00:44:32,085
And never before in my life did I have
a blister on my lip and never again.
570
00:44:33,168 --> 00:44:36,793
He saw it the following day,
and of course made some vulgar jokes about it.
571
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:39,085
But the whole thing was very strange.
572
00:44:40,126 --> 00:44:43,376
And there was somehow
a great intensity between us,
573
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,460
or rather, he had it,
and I had it perhaps.
574
00:44:47,001 --> 00:44:48,876
And I can't describe it any further.
575
00:44:55,710 --> 00:44:57,918
The situation in the film
is the following:
576
00:44:58,126 --> 00:45:00,793
Marie has an affair
with a drum major.
577
00:45:01,001 --> 00:45:04,585
And Woyzeck,
drifting towards insanity,
578
00:45:04,793 --> 00:45:06,918
has reason to be suspicious.
579
00:45:07,668 --> 00:45:11,043
This scene, like almost
everything in "Woyzeck,"
580
00:45:11,251 --> 00:45:14,085
was filmed in a single take,
without a cut.
581
00:45:31,210 --> 00:45:33,085
It's still you.
582
00:45:35,876 --> 00:45:37,460
Indeed.
583
00:45:40,043 --> 00:45:42,210
No, I can't see it.
584
00:45:42,418 --> 00:45:46,418
You look so strange, Franz.
I'm scared.
585
00:45:47,543 --> 00:45:49,876
I see nothing.
586
00:45:53,043 --> 00:45:55,376
I see nothing.
587
00:45:58,585 --> 00:46:00,085
One should see it,
588
00:46:00,251 --> 00:46:02,460
one should be able to grab it
with his fists'.
589
00:46:02,626 --> 00:46:05,876
What is it, Franz?
You're insane!
590
00:46:06,043 --> 00:46:08,210
A lot of people walk the street, right?
591
00:46:08,418 --> 00:46:11,668
You talk to anyone,
what do I care?
592
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,918
Did he stand here?
593
00:46:16,876 --> 00:46:18,585
There, yes?
594
00:46:19,126 --> 00:46:20,876
There?
595
00:46:22,501 --> 00:46:24,585
Did he do this?
596
00:46:26,001 --> 00:46:27,543
I wish I would have been him!
597
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:30,668
Him! I can't forbid people
to walk the street
598
00:46:30,835 --> 00:46:33,835
and tell them to leave
their mouth at home!
599
00:46:34,001 --> 00:46:36,460
Leave the lips at home...
600
00:46:36,626 --> 00:46:40,126
They're so beautiful,
it would be a shame.
601
00:46:40,293 --> 00:46:43,835
But the wasps like to land on them.
602
00:46:46,835 --> 00:46:49,043
And which wasp has stung you?
603
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,668
A sin, so full and wide.
604
00:46:52,876 --> 00:46:59,585
It stinks, fit to
smoke the angels out of heaven.
605
00:47:04,168 --> 00:47:10,251
You have a red mouth, Marie,
and not a blister on it.
606
00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:12,835
- Franz, your fever is talking!
- I saw him!
607
00:47:13,001 --> 00:47:16,543
You can see a lot with two good eyes
and the sun shining!
608
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:19,960
Did he stand here?
Like that? Like that?
609
00:47:20,126 --> 00:47:22,543
When the day is long
and the world old,
610
00:47:22,543 --> 00:47:24,960
a lot of people can be
in one place or another.
611
00:47:25,126 --> 00:47:26,085
Hit me, Franz!
612
00:47:26,251 --> 00:47:29,126
I'd rather have a knife in my body
than your hand on me!
613
00:47:43,501 --> 00:47:45,293
No.
614
00:47:47,710 --> 00:47:50,793
There should be a sign on her.
615
00:47:51,793 --> 00:47:54,626
There should be a sign on her.
616
00:47:56,043 --> 00:47:58,835
Every man is an abyss.
617
00:47:59,918 --> 00:48:02,960
You get dizzy looking in.
618
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:08,418
Innocence, there's a mark on you.
619
00:48:10,043 --> 00:48:11,126
Do I know?
620
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:13,960
Do I know?
621
00:48:16,126 --> 00:48:18,043
Who does know?
622
00:48:29,251 --> 00:48:31,460
I didn't know him, privately,
so to speak,
623
00:48:31,668 --> 00:48:37,001
but the little bit that was revealed
during shooting was very personal and very friendly.
624
00:48:40,835 --> 00:48:45,751
During the last day of shooting, for instance,
I think we took a group photo of the whole team.
625
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,335
And I was very sad that shooting was over.
626
00:48:49,418 --> 00:48:50,418
Yes, you cried.
627
00:48:50,751 --> 00:48:53,668
And I left early because
I couldn't keep from sobbing.
628
00:48:54,418 --> 00:48:56,918
And all of a sudden,
I heard steps behind me,
629
00:48:57,126 --> 00:48:59,376
and then someone said,
"Wait a moment."
630
00:48:59,585 --> 00:49:03,293
And it was Kinski, and he took me
in his arms, and he said,
631
00:49:03,501 --> 00:49:06,210
"Eva, I know exactly how you feel."
632
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:09,793
And that was so wonderful.
It did me a lot of good.
633
00:49:10,001 --> 00:49:12,585
I really needed that,
and he was there.
634
00:49:12,793 --> 00:49:14,335
He went to the hotel with me,
635
00:49:14,543 --> 00:49:18,501
holding me in his arms the entire time,
and he knew, he simply knew.
636
00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:24,626
And when I got to Cannes, I received,
I guess erroneously or whatever,
637
00:49:25,418 --> 00:49:27,085
No, you deserved it!
638
00:49:27,668 --> 00:49:31,085
...this prize.
I received it and not Klaus.
639
00:49:31,293 --> 00:49:33,043
I went to him and said,
640
00:49:33,251 --> 00:49:35,918
"Well, what do you think
about my getting this prize?"
641
00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:42,585
And he said, "Eva, I think only
of that walk we took together
642
00:49:42,793 --> 00:49:46,251
from the location to the hotel,
when you cried so."
643
00:49:48,376 --> 00:49:50,043
And I think that was great.
644
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:54,335
And he was there, sitting in the audience,
and he applauded me,
645
00:49:54,543 --> 00:49:58,335
and he said, "Finally you are wearing
a gorgeous dress!"
646
00:49:58,543 --> 00:50:00,335
And that was simply fine.
647
00:50:01,001 --> 00:50:03,335
Yes, I had told him beforehand.
648
00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:08,876
If they do give a prize, it would have
to be a joint one, for him, as well.
649
00:50:09,876 --> 00:50:13,210
And he said,
"I don't care about that scum!
650
00:50:13,418 --> 00:50:18,710
"Why should I receive a prize?
I know that I'm a genius!"
651
00:50:21,418 --> 00:50:24,876
And on and on, and I said,
"Well, we all know that.
652
00:50:25,085 --> 00:50:29,001
"And you never need to get a prize,
and a prize just compromises you,
653
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:34,793
and cheapens you and drags you to the same level
of the media people, the whole circus."
654
00:50:35,001 --> 00:50:39,751
And that did him a lot of good, and
he was very, very loving with me then,
655
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,960
and he kissed me on the mouth
and held me for a long time
656
00:50:44,168 --> 00:50:47,210
and was all broken up
and very deeply touched.
657
00:50:49,210 --> 00:50:52,335
There were quite a few
moments like that between us.
658
00:50:55,126 --> 00:51:01,126
I always find it difficult to explain
that he also possessed great human warmth,
659
00:51:02,168 --> 00:51:03,376
He did, yes.
660
00:51:03,585 --> 00:51:08,085
...which abruptly, as with a wild bear,
could turn into violence,
661
00:51:08,293 --> 00:51:11,543
and rage of unimaginable proportions.
662
00:51:14,585 --> 00:51:21,460
You won't tell me
whether I can scream or not!
663
00:51:21,626 --> 00:51:23,085
You can lick my ass!
664
00:51:23,251 --> 00:51:25,210
I'm going to smack your face!
665
00:51:25,418 --> 00:51:26,543
What?
666
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:29,210
- You can count on it!
- Go ahead.
667
00:51:29,418 --> 00:51:35,460
- You can count on it!
- Go ahead. Just try it.
668
00:51:35,668 --> 00:51:38,335
- Mouth off, I'll kick your ass!
- Just try it.
669
00:51:38,543 --> 00:51:40,960
This quarrel here,
filmed as an aside,
670
00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:44,626
was with our capable production
manager, Walter Saxer.
671
00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:48,210
By some rare chance,
I was not the brunt of it this time.
672
00:51:48,418 --> 00:51:51,251
I don't give a shit about
your jerking off with your friendship!
673
00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:54,085
We need a photographer,
do you understand?!
674
00:51:54,293 --> 00:51:56,168
Go on with your shit!
675
00:51:56,376 --> 00:52:00,501
The cause was trivial,
and I myself, at the right of the picture,
676
00:52:00,710 --> 00:52:03,251
didn't bother to interfere,
because Kinski,
677
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:07,043
compared with his previous outbreaks,
seemed rather mild.
678
00:52:07,251 --> 00:52:08,168
Take care of your own things'.
You have enough to do!
679
00:52:08,376 --> 00:52:12,001
I simply continued working at
setting up for the next scene.
680
00:52:12,918 --> 00:52:16,501
- Fine, you won't get anymore.
- Pig's slop's what it is!
681
00:52:16,501 --> 00:52:18,460
- You don't have to eat it.
- You fucking idiot!
682
00:52:18,626 --> 00:52:20,626
- You don't have to eat it.
- What are you saying?!
683
00:52:20,793 --> 00:52:22,085
Eat what you want.
684
00:52:22,251 --> 00:52:28,043
Worse than prison!
Don't tell me what to eat!
685
00:52:28,210 --> 00:52:31,418
- None for you.
- He's mad!
686
00:52:31,585 --> 00:52:35,960
He's mad!
Take this piece of shit away!
687
00:52:36,585 --> 00:52:40,251
No more for you.
You can eat your own shit.
688
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:45,751
A lunatic, belongs in an asylum!
A madman! He's mad, an idiot!
689
00:52:45,918 --> 00:52:47,085
He's mad.
690
00:52:47,251 --> 00:52:50,210
You should be locked up
because you're not normal anymore.
691
00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:52,293
Idiot.
692
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,418
I'm not done with you yet,
you stupid pig.
693
00:52:58,626 --> 00:53:02,876
How can you let such an asshole
run your production?
694
00:53:03,085 --> 00:53:08,043
You don't exist for me!
695
00:53:08,251 --> 00:53:11,876
You better behave
like a human being here.
696
00:53:12,043 --> 00:53:16,543
This is outrageous.
It's unbelievable.
697
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:21,835
Lick my ass, man!
We're making a movie'.
698
00:53:22,001 --> 00:53:25,960
We'll send you to the place
you belong, you idiot!
699
00:53:26,168 --> 00:53:28,168
Don't touch me!
You bother me!
700
00:53:28,376 --> 00:53:32,918
These ravings were really frightening,
a real problem for the Indians,
701
00:53:33,126 --> 00:53:36,710
who solve their conflicts
in a totally different manner.
702
00:53:42,043 --> 00:53:47,210
You're so stupid that you're not aware
of the consequences.
703
00:53:47,418 --> 00:53:50,668
I don't care about your consequences.
704
00:53:50,835 --> 00:53:52,543
You don't fucking care
about anything!
705
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:55,085
You don't fucking care
about the people!
706
00:53:55,251 --> 00:53:57,460
I don't care
about your fucking tantrums.
707
00:53:57,626 --> 00:53:59,668
You don't fucking care
about the people!
708
00:53:59,835 --> 00:54:04,793
Nobody can eat this pig food'.
Nobody can be so stupid'.
709
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,085
Don't eat it.
710
00:54:06,251 --> 00:54:07,543
You have to be an asshole to do it!
711
00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:08,668
You don't have to eat it.
712
00:54:08,835 --> 00:54:11,543
Do you understand?
I'm leaving!
713
00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:13,501
This is outrageous!
714
00:54:13,501 --> 00:54:15,835
"You don't have to eat it," he says.
715
00:54:16,001 --> 00:54:20,751
- It's unbelievable.
- Come on, let's drop it.
716
00:54:20,918 --> 00:54:23,293
Tell him to shut up.
717
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:24,960
Come on, just leave it alone,
you two.
718
00:54:25,126 --> 00:54:28,085
Walter, you too.
719
00:54:28,251 --> 00:54:31,418
[German}
720
00:54:31,585 --> 00:54:36,543
It's not normal, you idiot!
Every day!
721
00:54:36,543 --> 00:54:39,918
One of you should have the nerve
to stop this.
722
00:54:40,085 --> 00:54:43,460
Let's start shooting.
723
00:54:43,626 --> 00:54:48,168
We need more preparation.
I'd like to rehearse again.
724
00:54:48,335 --> 00:54:54,210
All right, Klaus, I'd like to show you
what I have in mind.
725
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,501
Kinski's raving fits strained things
with our Indian extras.
726
00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:18,751
They were Machiguengas,
these two here, and a lot of Campas, too.
727
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,001
Normally, they speak
very carefully, very, very softly,
728
00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:28,126
and physical contacts are very gentle.
729
00:55:28,543 --> 00:55:30,751
And they were obviously afraid.
730
00:55:31,251 --> 00:55:35,876
They would sit around in a circle,
huddled together, whispering.
731
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:55,460
And towards the end of shooting,
one of the chiefs came to me and said,
732
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,918
"You probably realized
that we were afraid,
733
00:55:59,126 --> 00:56:02,210
"but don't think for one moment
that were we scared
734
00:56:02,418 --> 00:56:05,793
"of that screaming madman,
who was shouting his head off."
735
00:56:06,585 --> 00:56:10,085
They were actually afraid of me
because I was so quiet.
736
00:56:13,126 --> 00:56:15,126
I believe that Kinski's fits
737
00:56:15,335 --> 00:56:18,835
can partly be explained
by his egocentric character.
738
00:56:22,001 --> 00:56:24,876
Egocentric is perhaps not
the correct word.
739
00:56:25,085 --> 00:56:27,085
He was an outright egomaniac.
740
00:56:27,793 --> 00:56:30,418
Whenever there was
a really serious accident,
741
00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:32,876
this became an even bigger problem,
742
00:56:33,085 --> 00:56:36,710
because, all of a sudden, he was
no longer the center of attention.
743
00:56:36,918 --> 00:56:38,710
He was no longer important.
744
00:56:38,918 --> 00:56:40,918
There was an incident, for example,
745
00:56:41,126 --> 00:56:45,501
where one of our lumberman was bitten
by a snake while cutting a tree.
746
00:56:45,835 --> 00:56:48,876
Something like this happened
only one time in three years,
747
00:56:49,085 --> 00:56:51,376
with hundreds of woodcutters
in the jungle
748
00:56:51,585 --> 00:56:55,043
who always worked barefoot
with their chainsaws.
749
00:56:55,543 --> 00:57:00,460
All snakes naturally flee from
the smell of the gasoline and from the noise.
750
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:05,043
And suddenly, this man feels
a snake striking him twice.
751
00:57:05,251 --> 00:57:09,251
And it was a shushúpe, this is the
most dangerous snake of all.
752
00:57:10,751 --> 00:57:16,501
Normally, takes only a few minutes before
cardiac arrest occurs, and breathing stops.
753
00:57:16,918 --> 00:57:22,335
And he dropped the saw, the power was cut off,
and he thought about it for five seconds.
754
00:57:22,751 --> 00:57:24,960
And then he grabbed the saw again,
755
00:57:25,168 --> 00:57:30,418
started it up the way you start
an outboard motor, and cut off his foot.
756
00:57:31,001 --> 00:57:36,876
And that saved his life, because our camp
with the doctor and the serum was 20 minutes away.
757
00:57:39,126 --> 00:57:42,960
When that happened,
I knew Kinski would start raving,
758
00:57:43,168 --> 00:57:49,460
because now he was just a marginal figure.
He would find some trifling excuse.
759
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:56,918
Or, in another incident, a plane crashed,
which was bringing six people to this place.
760
00:57:57,126 --> 00:58:01,835
Luckily, they all survived. Some of them,
however, were seriously injured.
761
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:06,085
There were confusing reports
on the radio, completely garbled,
762
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:09,710
and Kinski saw that he was
no longer in demand.
763
00:58:09,918 --> 00:58:14,668
And so, he threw a fit, because his coffee
had been only lukewarm that morning.
764
00:58:14,876 --> 00:58:18,501
And for hours, he screamed at me,
that close to my face.
765
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:20,251
It was incredible,
766
00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:25,043
and I didn't know how to calm him down,
and I finally had an inspiration.
767
00:58:25,501 --> 00:58:30,126
I went to my hut, where, for months
I had hidden a piece of chocolate.
768
00:58:30,335 --> 00:58:33,918
We would almost have killed
one another for something like that.
769
00:58:34,126 --> 00:58:38,876
And I went back to him, and going
right into his face, ate the chocolate.
770
00:58:39,085 --> 00:58:43,251
And all of a sudden, he was quiet.
This was utterly beyond him.
771
00:58:45,168 --> 00:58:46,585
Towards the end of shooting,
772
00:58:46,793 --> 00:58:49,418
the Indians offered
to kill Kinski for me.
773
00:58:50,251 --> 00:58:52,126
They said,
"Shall we kill him for you?"
774
00:58:52,335 --> 00:58:55,876
And I said, "No, for God's sake!
I still need him for shooting.
775
00:58:56,085 --> 00:58:57,876
"Leave him to me!
Leave him to me!"
776
00:58:58,085 --> 00:59:02,293
And I declined at the time,
but they were dead serious.
777
00:59:02,585 --> 00:59:05,668
They would have killed him,
undoubtedly, if I had wanted it.
778
00:59:08,043 --> 00:59:13,376
I at once regretted that I had held
the Indians back from their purpose.
779
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:19,543
By the way, the proposal to
do away with Kinski came from this Chief.
780
00:59:19,751 --> 00:59:26,751
[foreign language]
781
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,001
The seething rage the Indians
felt toward Kinski
782
00:59:31,210 --> 00:59:35,710
was very palpable for me here,
and was exploited for this scene.
783
00:59:35,918 --> 00:59:45,917
[foreign language]
784
00:59:47,335 --> 00:59:51,876
However, Kinski maintained
that in his innermost being
785
00:59:52,085 --> 00:59:55,460
he felt close to the Indians,
but this wasn't true.
786
00:59:55,668 --> 00:59:59,001
He said it only because
he wanted to pretend
787
00:59:59,210 --> 01:00:04,251
that he was close to "Nature's Children,"
and thus to "Mother Nature."
788
01:00:11,210 --> 01:00:14,418
Between Kinski and me,
there was an unbridgeable gap.
789
01:00:14,626 --> 01:00:17,418
And this had to do
with his feeling for nature.
790
01:00:18,043 --> 01:00:20,793
He stylized himself
as the "Natural Man,"
791
01:00:21,335 --> 01:00:27,668
and I believe that everything he said about the jungle,
and how he felt about it, was mainly posing.
792
01:00:27,876 --> 01:00:32,585
He declared everything around here erotic,
but he never went near the jungle.
793
01:00:32,793 --> 01:00:36,960
We stayed for months in a camp
in the jungle, like this here, very nearby,
794
01:00:37,168 --> 01:00:40,460
but he never so much
as set foot in the jungle.
795
01:00:40,668 --> 01:00:46,085
Just once he penetrated it
about 100 feet, where a fallen tree lay.
796
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:48,918
And of course, the photographer
had to go with him,
797
01:00:49,126 --> 01:00:53,210
and had to take hundreds of photos
of him tenderly embracing
798
01:00:53,418 --> 01:00:55,710
and copulating with this tree.
799
01:00:56,335 --> 01:00:58,335
He loved to show off this way,
800
01:01:00,626 --> 01:01:04,835
Poses and paraphernalia
were what mattered to him.
801
01:01:05,043 --> 01:01:09,085
His arrived here with high alpine gear,
which was far more important
802
01:01:09,293 --> 01:01:11,126
than the mountains themselves.
803
01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:15,710
His camouflage combat fatigues,
tailored by Yves Saint Laurent,
804
01:01:15,918 --> 01:01:18,376
were much more important
than any jungle.
805
01:01:18,793 --> 01:01:22,168
I think that Kinski, and not only in this regard,
806
01:01:22,376 --> 01:01:27,418
was generously endowed with
a fair share of natural stupidity.
807
01:01:29,126 --> 01:01:36,168
The difference between our views became
particularly apparent during the shooting of "Fitzcarraldo."
808
01:01:38,126 --> 01:01:41,043
Of course, we are challenging nature itself,
809
01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:45,460
and it hits back,
it just hits back that's all, and,
810
01:01:45,626 --> 01:01:51,460
that's grandiose about it, and we have to
accept that it is much stronger than we are.
811
01:01:52,168 --> 01:01:56,501
Kinski always says it's
full of erotic elements.
812
01:01:56,668 --> 01:02:01,835
I don't see it so much erotic,
I see it more full of obscenity.
813
01:02:02,668 --> 01:02:06,251
It's just, the nature here
is vile and base.
814
01:02:07,001 --> 01:02:09,668
I wouldn't anything erotical here.
815
01:02:09,835 --> 01:02:14,335
I would see fornication and
asphyxiation and choking, and,
816
01:02:14,751 --> 01:02:18,501
fighting for survival,
and growing, and,
817
01:02:20,335 --> 01:02:22,168
just rotting away.
818
01:02:23,585 --> 01:02:29,876
Of course there is a lot of misery,
but it is the same misery that is all around us.
819
01:02:30,418 --> 01:02:32,668
The trees here are in misery, and,
820
01:02:33,460 --> 01:02:34,918
the birds are in misery.
821
01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:38,668
I don't think they sing,
they just screech in pain
822
01:02:54,126 --> 01:02:59,001
Taking a close look at what's around us,
there is some sort of a harmony,
823
01:02:59,168 --> 01:03:05,168
it is the harmony of
overwhelming and collective murder.
824
01:03:08,335 --> 01:03:13,293
But, when I say this,
I say this all full of admiration for the jungle.
825
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:17,335
It is not that I hate it,
I love it, I love it very much.
826
01:03:17,501 --> 01:03:20,293
But I love it against my better judgement.
827
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:28,168
Something very strange, I think, is that
we reached some kind of tacit understanding
828
01:03:28,376 --> 01:03:30,876
which extended even to his ravings.
829
01:03:31,668 --> 01:03:37,793
Sometimes, I think, he had a vague and shadowy
awareness that he needed to produce a fit.
830
01:03:38,793 --> 01:03:44,251
I often provoked him, making
a disparaging remark so that he would explode.
831
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:49,293
And I knew he would then continue
screaming for one and a half hours.
832
01:03:49,918 --> 01:03:54,418
He screamed in a way that white foam
appeared at the corners of his mouth,
833
01:03:54,668 --> 01:03:57,001
until he had emptied himself out.
834
01:03:57,626 --> 01:04:03,043
For instance, it was precisely such moments
when Aguirre's madness would break through.
835
01:04:03,293 --> 01:04:08,126
I knew there had to be a very quiet,
very dangerous tone now.
836
01:04:12,543 --> 01:04:17,126
Kinski saw it differently.
He wanted Aguirre to start ranting and raving,
837
01:04:17,335 --> 01:04:22,001
declaring himself to be
the great traitor and the Wrath of God.
838
01:04:22,418 --> 01:04:25,293
And I think, deep inside,
he did understand me,
839
01:04:25,543 --> 01:04:30,460
and hoped I would provoke him,
so he would throw his tantrum first,
840
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:32,626
and then we could shoot the scene.
841
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:39,918
I'm the great traitor.
There must be no other.
842
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,418
Anyone even thinking of deserting
will be cut up into 198 pieces.
843
01:04:48,335 --> 01:04:50,835
The pieces will be trampled
844
01:04:51,001 --> 01:04:53,835
and the remains used
for painting walls.
845
01:05:00,085 --> 01:05:02,668
If you take a grain of corn
846
01:05:02,835 --> 01:05:05,460
or a drop of water
more than the ration,
847
01:05:06,626 --> 01:05:11,126
you'll be locked up for 155 years.
848
01:05:16,585 --> 01:05:20,960
If I, Aguirre, want the birds
to drop dead from the trees,
849
01:05:21,126 --> 01:05:24,918
they will drop dead from the trees.
850
01:05:28,626 --> 01:05:31,126
I am the Wrath of God.
851
01:05:32,585 --> 01:05:36,085
The earth I pass
will see me and tremble.
852
01:05:41,710 --> 01:05:46,376
Who follows me and the river
will win untold riches.
853
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:58,293
Whoever deserts...
854
01:06:17,668 --> 01:06:21,668
Kinski sometimes seriously believed
that I was mad.
855
01:06:22,126 --> 01:06:23,626
This isn't true of course.
856
01:06:25,210 --> 01:06:28,585
I'm quite sane,
clinically sane, so to speak.
857
01:06:29,293 --> 01:06:33,585
Nevertheless, he might have been
referring to something in particular.
858
01:06:34,043 --> 01:06:36,835
Together, we were
like two critical masses,
859
01:06:37,043 --> 01:06:41,251
which result in a dangerous mixture
when they come into contact.
860
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,918
Something that became
highly explosive.
861
01:06:46,501 --> 01:06:51,418
I was never out of my senses
but perhaps just very angry.
862
01:06:52,293 --> 01:06:58,085
It went so far that one day,
I seriously planned to firebomb him in his house.
863
01:07:00,793 --> 01:07:05,626
This was prevented only by the vigilance
of his Alsatian shepherd.
864
01:07:08,126 --> 01:07:11,418
But still, although we kept our distance,
865
01:07:11,626 --> 01:07:15,501
we did seek out one another,
again, at the right time.
866
01:07:17,043 --> 01:07:18,376
Where's Werner?
867
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,043
- Hello.
- I'm Tom Luddy.
868
01:07:22,251 --> 01:07:24,835
- Oh, you're Tom Luddy.
- Yeah.
869
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,626
We met at the Telluride
Film Festival in Colorado.
870
01:07:32,835 --> 01:07:36,293
At that time, we had already made
three films together,
871
01:07:36,501 --> 01:07:39,126
and we hadn't seen each other
for some time,
872
01:07:39,335 --> 01:07:41,168
and were looking forward
to our meeting,
873
01:07:41,543 --> 01:07:46,585
although I had only shortly before
given up my plan to murder him.
874
01:07:46,793 --> 01:07:48,251
But I really want to kill him.
875
01:07:48,418 --> 01:07:51,918
Yes, he also did want to kill me.
876
01:07:52,085 --> 01:07:56,085
See, I don't know him, I never met him,
I never worked with him.
877
01:07:56,626 --> 01:07:58,085
Nice to meet you.
878
01:07:58,668 --> 01:08:01,126
- How are you?
- Have you met before?
879
01:08:01,293 --> 01:08:04,376
- No, they just met.
- Only on the battlefield.
880
01:08:06,085 --> 01:08:08,585
On the battlefield of life itself.
881
01:08:09,251 --> 01:08:14,501
He's crazy, that's why we work together.
Otherwise we would never do anything together.
882
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:16,251
He takes his work to heart.
883
01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:19,460
- Why do you work together?
- Because he's crazy.
884
01:08:20,626 --> 01:08:22,501
And so I am, that's why.
885
01:08:23,335 --> 01:08:27,543
It's a perfect combination
of the mad people, madmen.
886
01:08:28,418 --> 01:08:31,626
We go as far as possible.
887
01:08:31,793 --> 01:08:35,876
So that's why I didn't even need to tell him,
888
01:08:36,043 --> 01:08:41,960
to tell Werner, don't stop it, before I break down.
He wouldn't stop anyway.
889
01:08:45,168 --> 01:08:51,543
You can't direct it, things really happen.
You can't direct, it's ridiculous, you know.
890
01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:57,376
And this I call genius,
if directors, this way...
891
01:08:57,543 --> 01:09:01,293
I can see through him
like one can see through water in the sink.
892
01:09:01,751 --> 01:09:08,626
And I know what's in there, and I know
what can be mobilized, and I know what can be articulated
893
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:17,418
And I know the energy and his
so-called insanity or whatever you call it.
894
01:09:17,626 --> 01:09:23,835
And I know how to evoke it,
how to bring it to life.
895
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:28,043
And that's why he feels safe
when we work together,
896
01:09:28,210 --> 01:09:36,793
because he knows that I can bring
his innermost qualities into life, in front of a camera.
897
01:09:37,460 --> 01:09:40,210
Nosferatu, Phantom of the Night
898
01:10:24,043 --> 01:10:28,168
You must excuse my rude entrance.
899
01:10:28,335 --> 01:10:31,043
I am Count Dracula.
900
01:10:32,418 --> 01:10:34,585
I know of you.
901
01:10:35,418 --> 01:10:39,085
I read Jonathan's diary.
902
01:10:40,001 --> 01:10:44,043
Since he has been with you,
he is ruined.
903
01:10:44,210 --> 01:10:45,543
He won't die.
904
01:10:45,710 --> 01:10:47,543
Yes, he will.
905
01:10:49,335 --> 01:10:52,543
Dying is cruelty to the unsuspecting.
906
01:10:52,710 --> 01:10:55,543
But death isn't everything.
907
01:10:56,543 --> 01:11:00,626
It is more cruel
not to be able to die.
908
01:11:00,793 --> 01:11:06,251
I wish I could partake of the love
between you and Jonathan.
909
01:11:08,043 --> 01:11:13,793
Nothing in this world,
not even God, can touch that.
910
01:11:14,710 --> 01:11:19,418
It won't change,
even if he never recognizes me again.
911
01:11:19,585 --> 01:11:21,751
I could change everything.
912
01:11:21,918 --> 01:11:25,626
Will you come to me and be my ally?
913
01:11:25,793 --> 01:11:28,501
There'd be salvation
for your husband...
914
01:11:28,501 --> 01:11:30,418
and for me.
915
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,960
The absence of love
916
01:11:36,126 --> 01:11:39,876
is the most abject pain.
917
01:11:41,126 --> 01:11:44,668
Salvation comes
from ourselves alone.
918
01:11:46,501 --> 01:11:49,460
You may rest assured
919
01:11:49,626 --> 01:11:54,460
that even the unthinkable
will not deter me.
920
01:12:05,793 --> 01:12:08,960
Every gray hair on my head
I call Kinski.
921
01:12:17,793 --> 01:12:21,251
Oh yes, I miss him.
Now and then, I do miss him.
922
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:26,376
Not all the time, but there are moments
when he is very much alive for me.
923
01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:30,918
The most important thing was that,
924
01:12:31,126 --> 01:12:35,126
through him, a climate of
unconditional professionalism was created.
925
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,460
He used to complain about the lighting
and demanded changes, and I think,
926
01:12:42,251 --> 01:12:46,335
I can remember that vividly,
when we were shooting in Iquitos that time,
927
01:12:46,543 --> 01:12:48,751
in the post office, together with Bill Rose.
928
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,501
He was standing there and noticed
that something wasn't quite as it should be,
929
01:12:52,751 --> 01:12:56,835
And as always, he asked for a mirror.
And as always, he was right.
930
01:12:57,043 --> 01:13:01,126
But I mean it never happened that he
maintained something was wrong, when it wasn't.
931
01:13:03,543 --> 01:13:06,501
And he also sensed,
with 25 people on the set,
932
01:13:06,710 --> 01:13:09,626
when back there somebody whispered,
or did something.
933
01:13:11,835 --> 01:13:14,835
Yes, the raving fit
would follow without fail.
934
01:13:15,043 --> 01:13:19,001
Yes, I think so. It was almost
an animal presence that he displayed.
935
01:13:21,668 --> 01:13:25,376
I learned something special
from him, from his physicality.
936
01:13:25,585 --> 01:13:28,085
I later called it the Kinski spiral,
937
01:13:28,293 --> 01:13:31,335
meaning an appearance
from behind the camera.
938
01:13:32,751 --> 01:13:36,293
If you enter the scene from the side,
showing your profile,
939
01:13:36,501 --> 01:13:39,335
and then face the camera,
there is no tension.
940
01:13:40,585 --> 01:13:41,960
And he developed something:
941
01:13:42,210 --> 01:13:46,335
he would stand next to the tripod,
and twist his leg around like that,
942
01:13:46,543 --> 01:13:51,501
and this way, the body had to spiral
itself organically into the picture.
943
01:13:54,001 --> 01:13:56,793
Now if you were the camera, like this,
944
01:13:57,001 --> 01:14:01,710
he would position himself right next to it
and twist into frame.
945
01:14:01,918 --> 01:14:05,293
And this created a mysterious,
disturbing tension.
946
01:14:27,043 --> 01:14:29,668
Play something for the men.
947
01:14:46,585 --> 01:14:50,210
He did spiral just like that,
I can remember, up on that platform
948
01:14:50,418 --> 01:14:53,293
when we were filming
simultaneously from a helicopter.
949
01:14:53,501 --> 01:14:55,335
And everybody was up on that platform,
950
01:14:55,543 --> 01:14:58,668
and he did it, and obviously,
that was very dangerous...
951
01:15:03,085 --> 01:15:06,501
...because it was well over
120 feet up in the treetops.
952
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,876
And everything was swaying and rocking,
and they hoisted us up there.
953
01:15:11,085 --> 01:15:20,460
[foreign language]
954
01:15:24,585 --> 01:15:34,584
[foreign language]
955
01:16:20,210 --> 01:16:23,043
I can hardly believe it.
956
01:16:23,210 --> 01:16:26,626
There! There is the Ucayali.
957
01:16:27,918 --> 01:16:31,626
The river above
the Pongo das Mortes is ours.
958
01:16:31,793 --> 01:16:35,251
So, we're building a train tunnel.
959
01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:40,668
No, we'll drag the ship
over the mountain!
960
01:16:40,835 --> 01:16:43,543
The bare-asses will help.
961
01:16:43,710 --> 01:16:45,960
How will you do it?
962
01:16:46,126 --> 01:16:48,835
Just as the cow
jumped over the moon.
963
01:16:50,126 --> 01:16:55,543
We often understood one another without words,
almost the way animals understand each other.
964
01:16:56,168 --> 01:17:00,168
And the closeness became such
that we almost changed roles,
965
01:17:00,418 --> 01:17:02,710
as this example possibly shows.
966
01:17:03,085 --> 01:17:06,876
When we started, Jason Robards
was Fitzcarraldo,
967
01:17:07,085 --> 01:17:09,293
and Mick Jagger played his sidekick.
968
01:17:10,001 --> 01:17:12,626
We started shooting,
and Jason Robards became so ill
969
01:17:12,835 --> 01:17:15,501
that we had to fly him
out to the United States.
970
01:17:15,710 --> 01:17:18,501
And the doctors
wouldn't permit him to return.
971
01:17:18,710 --> 01:17:28,709
[foreign language]
972
01:17:39,376 --> 01:17:45,668
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
973
01:17:45,835 --> 01:17:52,168
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
974
01:17:54,626 --> 01:17:59,626
Wilbur, you are
definitely my man.
975
01:18:15,210 --> 01:18:20,710
We want the Opera in Iquitos!
We need Opera here,
976
01:18:20,876 --> 01:18:25,876
- Don't you want...you hear!
- ...music in your soul!
977
01:18:26,043 --> 01:18:27,418
Come and join us!
978
01:18:38,293 --> 01:18:41,460
This church remains closed
979
01:18:41,626 --> 01:18:44,543
until the town has its opera house.
980
01:18:48,126 --> 01:18:50,293
I want the opera house.
981
01:18:51,043 --> 01:18:53,376
I want my opera house!
982
01:18:54,460 --> 01:18:57,210
I want an opera house!
983
01:18:58,501 --> 01:19:03,876
This church will stay closed
until this town has an opera!
984
01:19:04,793 --> 01:19:08,210
I will build my opera house'.
985
01:19:08,418 --> 01:19:11,210
I will build an opera'.
986
01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:13,876
I want to have an opera!
987
01:19:21,918 --> 01:19:24,501
I want my opera house.
988
01:19:34,710 --> 01:19:36,793
I knew that if I didn't get him,
989
01:19:37,001 --> 01:19:40,710
I would have to change body and
role with him, so to speak.
990
01:19:41,376 --> 01:19:43,793
I would then have to be Fitzcarraldo.
991
01:19:44,001 --> 01:19:47,418
I thank God on my knees
that I didn't have to,
992
01:19:47,626 --> 01:19:49,585
and that Kinski did it.
993
01:19:53,168 --> 01:19:56,918
We had a blessed one working there,
and I am truly glad.
994
01:19:57,126 --> 01:20:00,251
I met him in New York,
and he was just great.
995
01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:06,043
I was completely devastated, and he
immediately opened a bottle of champagne and said,
996
01:20:06,585 --> 01:20:10,293
"I knew it, Werner.
I knew I would be Fitzcarraldo.
997
01:20:10,501 --> 01:20:13,251
"I am Fitzcarraldo,
and you're not going to be him
998
01:20:13,460 --> 01:20:15,251
"because I'm much better than you."
999
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,293
Of course he was right.
1000
01:20:18,335 --> 01:20:22,335
But when I brought him to this site,
he saw how steep the terrain was,
1001
01:20:22,543 --> 01:20:28,126
his heart immediately sank, and he thought,
"For God's sake, this can't be done."
1002
01:20:28,335 --> 01:20:29,793
He saw it at once.
1003
01:20:31,126 --> 01:20:37,126
Our task was to heave an Amazon steamboat,
bit by bit, across that thing there.
1004
01:20:39,043 --> 01:20:41,543
Do you see the red cliff there?
1005
01:20:41,751 --> 01:20:43,210
Yes, I see it.
1006
01:20:44,043 --> 01:20:46,085
That must be it.
1007
01:20:46,293 --> 01:20:51,835
Good. We can't go much further,
or we'll run aground on a sandbank.
1008
01:20:53,001 --> 01:20:58,210
The slope looks insignificant,
but it's my destiny.
1009
01:21:00,210 --> 01:21:06,335
Strangely enough, he became the one
who would later prove to be the strongest negative force
1010
01:21:06,835 --> 01:21:10,960
which worked to break up
the project, or at least change it.
1011
01:21:13,501 --> 01:21:18,210
I remember, when the river was swollen,
and I was sitting in my hut, a little further up,
1012
01:21:18,418 --> 01:21:22,793
gazing at the river, which kept
rising and rising, all day long.
1013
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:27,793
And then, all of a sudden, there was a delegation
which had been sent by Kinski.
1014
01:21:28,001 --> 01:21:31,418
This was quite clear,
and they arrived with tea and said,
1015
01:21:31,626 --> 01:21:33,376
"Let's be calm now.
1016
01:21:33,585 --> 01:21:36,126
"And let's think about
what we can do now."
1017
01:21:36,376 --> 01:21:42,126
And I said, "What do you mean? I am calm.
I am the only one who is calm here."
1018
01:21:43,793 --> 01:21:48,876
And they wanted kind of- Kinski wanted
to protect me from my own madness.
1019
01:21:50,585 --> 01:21:54,835
And by this attempt to talk me out of the film,
it was clear that Kinski,
1020
01:21:55,043 --> 01:21:59,876
the strongest force which had been with me here,
had now also abandoned me.
1021
01:22:00,376 --> 01:22:04,043
Inwardly, everyone had left me, and the loneliness,
1022
01:22:04,251 --> 01:22:08,751
week after week, was difficult for me of course,
perhaps the most difficult thing.
1023
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,210
There was nobody on my side any longer,
nobody who believed in the film.
1024
01:22:13,460 --> 01:22:17,793
Nobody. Not a single one.
Not one. Nobody.
1025
01:22:19,418 --> 01:22:21,918
And only when the boat started to move,
1026
01:22:22,126 --> 01:22:26,335
which was an unheard of,
incredible, mechanical, kinetic effort,
1027
01:22:26,626 --> 01:22:30,543
then all of a sudden,
Kinski realized there was a chance,
1028
01:22:30,751 --> 01:22:34,126
and he put enthusiasm
and energy into the story.
1029
01:22:34,918 --> 01:22:40,418
The dynamics and straining of this boat,
as well as his sheer physical effort,
1030
01:22:40,668 --> 01:22:42,626
are both visible on the screen.
1031
01:22:42,876 --> 01:22:45,543
Although I felt
a certain disappointment
1032
01:22:45,751 --> 01:22:51,626
that he didn't fully participate until this point,
I held onto one thing always.
1033
01:22:51,835 --> 01:22:53,835
With all the films we did together,
1034
01:22:54,043 --> 01:22:58,960
the only thing that counted in the end
is what you see on the screen.
1035
01:23:01,043 --> 01:23:04,668
That's him.
That's him right there.
1036
01:23:11,626 --> 01:23:13,751
Pull harder!
1037
01:23:17,168 --> 01:23:18,960
The bandito!
1038
01:23:19,210 --> 01:23:21,626
I can't believe it, it works!
1039
01:23:21,793 --> 01:23:23,793
It works.
1040
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,376
- It works!
- It works!
1041
01:23:38,210 --> 01:23:39,960
Careful!
1042
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,543
For me, he was a magnificent actor.
1043
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:52,876
And he has, he had this capacity
of transformation, that I love.
1044
01:23:53,751 --> 01:23:55,376
He was very difficult.
1045
01:23:56,085 --> 01:24:00,626
I remember, when I was supposed
to do the film with you,
1046
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:04,460
All the people, actors and actresses,
they said to me,
1047
01:24:04,626 --> 01:24:08,085
my God, you're going to work with Klaus.
1048
01:24:08,418 --> 01:24:10,626
He's impossible to work with.
1049
01:24:11,043 --> 01:24:12,626
He's totally crazy.
1050
01:24:13,335 --> 01:24:17,335
He's nuts, you cannot work with him.
It's impossible.
1051
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:25,043
He had something that I liked very much,
such a warmth, and so much humor with you.
1052
01:24:25,210 --> 01:24:30,126
In hundred and sixty films or so,
he didn't even smile.
1053
01:24:30,293 --> 01:24:30,918
Nein.
1054
01:24:31,085 --> 01:24:35,751
But, together with you,
he was a warm-hearted, kind man.
1055
01:24:35,918 --> 01:24:37,751
It was fantastic.
1056
01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:41,626
- He was almost timid with you.
- He was very shy.
1057
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,501
Yes, he was very shy, and,
1058
01:24:47,210 --> 01:24:50,626
he never said nasty things to me.
1059
01:24:51,085 --> 01:24:57,168
On the contrary, he was very polite,
very sweet.
1060
01:24:57,710 --> 01:25:05,793
He used to write me little notes, nice,
that I found in my room.
1061
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,668
Just sweet things,
very nice things.
1062
01:25:09,293 --> 01:25:14,835
But I remember also that he
was afraid of a lot of things.
1063
01:25:15,460 --> 01:25:21,460
And I remember in the hotel,
where we went to have lunch together,
1064
01:25:22,126 --> 01:25:26,501
he used to bring a bottle of alcohol,
and he was putting alcohol everywhere.
1065
01:25:26,668 --> 01:25:28,751
On the dish, on the glasses, everywhere.
1066
01:25:29,585 --> 01:25:32,793
- And I...to "clean" everything.
- Cleans it.
1067
01:25:33,335 --> 01:25:40,335
And he couldn't bear human touch,
he would immediately wash his hands with alcohol.
1068
01:25:40,918 --> 01:25:43,043
It's a little bit like Michael Jackson
1069
01:25:43,543 --> 01:25:45,960
For a really big boat,
my money won't be enough.
1070
01:25:46,126 --> 01:25:48,293
You'll make it.
1071
01:26:09,251 --> 01:26:15,501
I remember also another time, where we were
shooting in a room with a little animal,
1072
01:26:15,668 --> 01:26:20,876
and he became completely crazy because
he had to take this little animal, you remember?
1073
01:26:21,043 --> 01:26:23,418
- Yes
- And he went through the camera,
1074
01:26:23,585 --> 01:26:27,918
- Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
- And he shout on the cameraman, that day,
1075
01:26:29,168 --> 01:26:31,710
- It was on the bedroom,
- Yes.
1076
01:26:31,876 --> 01:26:36,043
He romp, I think it was because
he had to touch this...
1077
01:26:36,210 --> 01:26:38,376
Yeah, it was a young ocelot.
1078
01:26:38,543 --> 01:26:40,543
- Yes, exactly, yeah.
- Which is very good
1079
01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:44,710
And the shouting came seconds
after we stopped the camera.
1080
01:26:45,793 --> 01:26:50,751
- Thanks God, yes.
- Fortunately, he was totally hysterical that day.
1081
01:26:52,543 --> 01:26:58,626
I remember, every night,
when we were coming after the shooting,
1082
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,085
from the Amazon, yeah,
and you were coming back,
1083
01:27:03,376 --> 01:27:08,876
- with a little book like this. A notebook.
- A notebook, yes.
1084
01:27:09,418 --> 01:27:17,710
And you were writing everything, for you,
and Klaus was very, very, very jealous,
1085
01:27:17,876 --> 01:27:20,835
because he was out of it.
You remember that?
1086
01:27:21,001 --> 01:27:24,876
Yes. And he was afraid somehow
of what I was writing.
1087
01:27:25,043 --> 01:27:29,168
Exactly. Because it was for him,
something mysterious.
1088
01:27:29,376 --> 01:27:32,751
He wasn't part of.
I remember that.
1089
01:27:34,376 --> 01:27:38,251
I remember your book.
It was difficult to read, because it was so small.
1090
01:27:38,418 --> 01:27:44,835
You know, my longhand is of normal size,
but I brought it down to microscopic size.
1091
01:27:45,001 --> 01:27:46,585
It's very strange.
1092
01:27:47,168 --> 01:27:51,626
It was impossible. I think you,
after you did a book of it,
1093
01:27:52,043 --> 01:27:53,626
No, I never published it.
1094
01:27:53,793 --> 01:27:56,751
- I never even dared to read it.
- Oh, you never.
1095
01:28:03,460 --> 01:28:05,501
This here, I remember very well...
1096
01:28:05,710 --> 01:28:09,001
A photo you took which served
as a model for a painting.
1097
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:12,585
- It was this one.
- Yes, that's it.
1098
01:28:13,043 --> 01:28:16,251
This was the moment when he saw
the painting for the first time.
1099
01:28:16,460 --> 01:28:20,085
You can see how we had
relaxed moments with one another.
1100
01:28:21,168 --> 01:28:24,585
But I remember well that
his mood changed completely here.
1101
01:28:24,793 --> 01:28:27,210
Suddenly, something in the picture
didn't suit him anymore,
1102
01:28:27,418 --> 01:28:30,543
and he exploded and started
screaming like a berserk.
1103
01:28:30,751 --> 01:28:33,460
Yes, that happened
from one second to the next.
1104
01:28:34,126 --> 01:28:39,251
He had this capacity for changing around completely,
and becoming a totally different person.
1105
01:28:39,876 --> 01:28:43,501
This polarity that
manifested itself again and again.
1106
01:28:45,001 --> 01:28:46,126
Yes.
1107
01:28:47,251 --> 01:28:50,210
- This became our poster.
- Yes, that's the one.
1108
01:28:50,418 --> 01:28:51,835
Nobody believed at first
1109
01:28:52,043 --> 01:28:54,918
that we actually heaved the boat
across the mountain.
1110
01:28:55,126 --> 01:28:59,085
And you have furnished the proof,
and the movie does it as well.
1111
01:28:59,293 --> 01:29:02,668
Yes, here's the evidence
in black and white, and on paper.
1112
01:29:03,168 --> 01:29:08,210
It is a great metaphor. Metaphor
for what, I don't really know to this day,
1113
01:29:08,418 --> 01:29:10,626
but I know it's a great metaphor.
1114
01:29:12,126 --> 01:29:14,876
- And here, well
- "Cobra Verde," the end.
1115
01:29:15,085 --> 01:29:18,585
This is where you show Kinski
how he had to walk in this scene.
1116
01:29:21,418 --> 01:29:24,210
In front of the crippled man, yes.
1117
01:29:25,585 --> 01:29:28,960
He had polio as a child,
and you cast him in the film.
1118
01:29:30,626 --> 01:29:34,376
And you used to
act things out for Kinski, beautifully.
1119
01:29:36,751 --> 01:29:38,751
- We often changed parts.
- Yes.
1120
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,251
- I could have played this role as well.
- No doubt.
1121
01:29:42,751 --> 01:29:45,251
You would have also been
a good Fitzcarraldo.
1122
01:29:45,835 --> 01:29:47,335
That's what you are, in reality.
1123
01:29:48,001 --> 01:29:50,335
And here, I truly like this very much.
1124
01:29:50,543 --> 01:29:53,043
It happened, of course,
because Kinski must have sensed
1125
01:29:53,251 --> 01:29:55,043
the presence of your camera.
1126
01:29:55,251 --> 01:29:58,960
Yes. And he also just wanted
to let you have it, didn't he?
1127
01:30:04,210 --> 01:30:07,585
There you are, when you're directing
the army of 800 African women.
1128
01:30:07,835 --> 01:30:10,210
Not just women, but Amazon warriors.
1129
01:30:13,918 --> 01:30:18,918
Yes, like a shepherd dog, as usual,
without megaphone or loudspeaker.
1130
01:30:19,126 --> 01:30:20,293
Always running.
1131
01:30:20,501 --> 01:30:25,460
Yes, physical. And Kinski was
very, very physical, too, but differently.
1132
01:30:25,668 --> 01:30:28,626
He drew everyone,
and I held them together.
1133
01:30:28,835 --> 01:30:33,626
Yes, that's what you do, that's your work,
and you've done it with bravado.
1134
01:30:34,126 --> 01:30:38,376
But we complemented each other well,
because I kept the herd together,
1135
01:30:38,585 --> 01:30:41,001
and he attracted it magnetically.
1136
01:30:41,251 --> 01:30:43,543
You can see this in this picture here.
1137
01:30:47,793 --> 01:30:51,793
This is him as the leader
of the rebellion against the King,
1138
01:30:52,001 --> 01:30:56,876
with this incredible energy,
with this crazed energy he possessed.
1139
01:31:00,543 --> 01:31:04,626
They took the sacred python
from the temple! Go back!
1140
01:31:04,793 --> 01:31:06,168
Nobody passes alive!
1141
01:31:06,335 --> 01:31:08,626
In my country, I was a snake!
1142
01:31:08,793 --> 01:31:10,835
Out of my way!
1143
01:31:37,210 --> 01:31:41,210
No! No!
1144
01:31:41,710 --> 01:31:45,710
Stay back!
His wives will strangle him now.
1145
01:31:54,626 --> 01:32:00,085
This scene, where the slave trader
Cobra Verde tries to flee and meets his death,
1146
01:32:00,293 --> 01:32:03,335
was the last day of shooting
that we had together.
1147
01:32:04,335 --> 01:32:06,835
Kinski was completely
beyond control.
1148
01:32:09,460 --> 01:32:16,043
He already identified himself too completely
with the role in his own film project, "Paganini,"
1149
01:32:16,251 --> 01:32:20,418
and brought with him into my film
an unpleasant climate,
1150
01:32:20,626 --> 01:32:24,626
something offensive,
something that was alien to me.
1151
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,876
Kinski had insisted for years
that I should direct "Paganini",
1152
01:32:30,460 --> 01:32:34,751
but I always declined because
I considered his script unfilmable.
1153
01:32:35,751 --> 01:32:37,918
He finally made the film alone.
1154
01:32:38,543 --> 01:32:41,585
I didn't want to continue
our collaboration.
1155
01:32:41,793 --> 01:32:43,793
We parted ways.
1156
01:32:45,085 --> 01:32:50,210
In 1991, he died in his home,
north of San Francisco.
1157
01:32:50,418 --> 01:32:52,085
He had spent himself.
1158
01:32:52,251 --> 01:32:55,793
It was as if
he had burned himself out.
1159
01:33:01,376 --> 01:33:04,335
He had put so much intensity
into this scene,
1160
01:33:04,543 --> 01:33:07,960
that, from this alone,
he had emptied himself out.
1161
01:33:08,918 --> 01:33:12,293
Perhaps this should have been filmed
at the start of shooting,
1162
01:33:12,501 --> 01:33:16,835
but in any case, what happened was,
that he had spent himself.
1163
01:33:17,085 --> 01:33:19,293
He burned away like a comet.
1164
01:33:19,543 --> 01:33:23,918
Afterwards, he wasn't there anymore.
Afterwards, he was ashes.
1165
01:33:24,126 --> 01:33:25,793
This is what I sensed,
1166
01:33:26,001 --> 01:33:28,126
and he himself
said something similar.
1167
01:33:28,543 --> 01:33:33,251
He said, "We can go no further.
I am no more."
1168
01:35:14,210 --> 01:35:17,626
Sometimes I want
to put my arm around him again,
1169
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:24,126
but I guess I only dream about this
because I've seen this in old footage of the two of us.
1170
01:35:24,835 --> 01:35:27,876
We are friends,
we joke with one another
1171
01:35:28,126 --> 01:35:30,626
as if it had always been that way.
1172
01:35:31,210 --> 01:35:33,668
No, He didn't say shut up!
1173
01:35:33,835 --> 01:35:38,668
He took a whip
and smacked their ugly faces!
1174
01:35:39,126 --> 01:35:43,626
That's what He did,
you stupid pig!
1175
01:35:48,668 --> 01:35:51,626
And yet, we belonged together.
1176
01:35:51,835 --> 01:35:54,418
We were ready
to go down together.
1177
01:35:55,585 --> 01:35:59,168
I see us back in the jungle,
together in a boat.
1178
01:35:59,418 --> 01:36:01,710
The whole world belongs to us.
1179
01:36:02,085 --> 01:36:05,001
But Klaus seems to want to fly away.
1180
01:36:05,626 --> 01:36:08,001
Shouldn't I have noticed at the time
1181
01:36:08,210 --> 01:36:11,668
that it was his soul
that wanted to flutter away?
1182
01:36:16,418 --> 01:36:20,668
And then I see him with a butterfly,
softly, delicately.
1183
01:36:21,126 --> 01:36:23,585
The little creature
doesn't want to leave him
1184
01:36:23,793 --> 01:36:26,210
and is so unafraid,
so at ease,
1185
01:36:26,418 --> 01:36:28,501
that sometimes, it seems to me
1186
01:36:28,710 --> 01:36:31,918
that Klaus himself
turns into a butterfly.
1187
01:36:33,168 --> 01:36:35,793
And everything that
weighed on us is gone.
1188
01:36:36,543 --> 01:36:39,460
And even though my mind
revolts against it,
1189
01:36:39,668 --> 01:36:42,251
something deep inside me tells me
1190
01:36:42,460 --> 01:36:45,835
this is the way
I'd like to keep him in my memory.