(insects chirping)
CARLO: Yeah, I started the hostility log thing
-this week. -PETER: How's that working out?
CARLO: Oh, yeah, good. Yeah. Um...
Had a bit of a situation Wednesday with somebody.
Yeah, it was just-just some guy
eyeballing me at the pub.
But I was getting pretty pissed,
and I used the stop technique,
you know, we spoke about. So, yeah.
It's... I'm-I'm getting pretty good at it,
-so that's good. -PETER: Great.
Um... Ray, how have you been?
Yeah, good, mate.
-PETER: Yeah? -Yep.
Is there anything you want to talk about?
Nah, I'm good.
PETER: Are you sure?
-Nothing at all? -(Ray chuckles)
I beat my, uh, girlfriend's brother up over Christmas.
(inhales deeply) Okay.
(coughs) Um...
What happened?
I went round to her parents' place,
and, um...
Yeah, we did the whole, uh, Secret Santa thing.
Me daughter got this unicorn candle,
which she was pretty chuffed about,
and, uh, me girlfriend's brother decided he wanted it,
and when it was his turn, he, uh, took it off her.
-So you assaulted him? -Well, he was being a dickhead, so,
-you know. -PETER: So you assaulted him?
Eh, pretty much.
And how did your girlfriend feel about this?
Well, she's not my girlfriend anymore, so...
VINCE: Shit.
-Sorry, mate. -Mm.
PETER: I mean, uh, you know,
without wanting to state the obvious,
can you see how violence
is perhaps not the best way
for you to resolve your disputes?
No, I think it generally is.
But, you know, just don't do it
in front of your girlfriend, you know?
(all chuckle)
PETER: Uh, what's great
about it? I mean, it doesn't seem to have worked
-for you this time. -RAY: Yeah, well, sometimes it does,
sometimes it doesn't, you know?
PETER: Can you give me one example
of violence ever working?
World War II.
-World War II. -RAY: Mm-hmm.
We didn't beat the Nazis
just by talking to them.
We used violence.
PETER: Okay, sure. So every now and then,
violence is necessary as a last resort.
But for you,
uh, with your girlfriend's brother,
I mean, would you call that an example of violence working?
Yeah, look, I shouldn't have done what I did.
You know, I'm not making excuses.
But I don't think you can say
that all violence is bad. I mean,
I think there's good violence and bad violence.
What's good violence?
World War II.
Thanks, Vince.
Um...
-Yeah. -Uh, all right,
maybe it's about time.
Maybe we should leave it there.
Thank you, everyone. Thank you.
(grunts)
-(Ray humming a tune) -NARRATOR (on TV): German forces had already moved in
and now occupied the abbey ruins in force.
Here you go, mate. You can have the fatty bit.
-Mate, you didn't even chew that. -Meanwhile, in the town below,
the 28th Maori battalion
had led a successful attack on the casino railway station,
only to then become trapped and cut off from their support
across the river.
-(machine guns firing) -(bullets whizzing)